lets get back to bashing addie's work, OK?
Measuring too much can at times cause problems. .
Measure, pin the graphics, stand back, look at the the most Prominent body line, does it LOOK right, not always. Make it crooked if you have to so it Looks correct.
The phone number is un even over the most pre dominant body line, the Lower one. The rear door is even, so compared to that it looks crooked. Still a good job, seen many worse, especially mine when I used to work off levels, not adjust the average distances to get install line. I run a Laser level at the angle of the main body line now, and measure off that.
Don't you guys get it? He knows his layouts are horrible! He only wants attention and you keep giving it to him!
Don't you guys get it? He knows his layouts are horrible! He only wants attention and you keep giving it to him!
Don't you guys get it? He knows his layouts are horrible! He only wants attention and you keep giving it to him!
+1
I usually stay out of these heated posts BUT my 2 cents...
with design it seems you either have it or you dont... and Signmanic is 100 percent correct It is ALL about the design! look at the example he did
If it is not your strong suit and you just dont have it wouldn't it be wise to hire outside help for that aspect? If you get great designs and sell great designs your biz will increase , you will have more time to do other things that are your specialy and no one will notice if anything is crooked cuz the design will be so rockin!
Just a thought- there are 100 talented designers here who could do all your layout work at a fair price
He might want attention and he might receive it from all who participate, but think about this for a moment......
How 'bout all the newbies, students, lurkers and whatever else comes to this site and reads the threads in the open forums ?? At least they have a chance to learn what NOT to do and that there are people willing to help, critique and better this industry. However much bashing Addie takes is on him and him alone. He asks for it with his continuing odd approach.
What gets me the most is his absolute word that he has not screwed anyone on this site monetarily and yet, here's still another one where he tries to talk his way out of screwing someone.
I for one, am tired of seeing the habitual lies and mounting evidence and he is just getting braver and screwing more people by the minute. He's only burning his own behind, but it's got to be scarred to the point of 'Well Done'. Put a poker in it, take it out of the oven and throw it away. This one's burned to a crisp beyond usefulness. Get rid of it before it really hurts someone. This is a true example of being warned time and time again and neither he nor anyone else is trying to rid the system of the problem.
I actually honestly don't think he's doing it for attention. He's proud of his work -- which is a good thing. Some things obviously need to be improved -- he's admitted he knows. My guess he doesn't do a whole lot of sign work, or he wouldn't be showing a window decal or a small yard sign...
I bid this job out against another shop. The client dictated parts of the design based on the losing shops proposal.
Did the client show you the losing shops proposal/layout? I'd be pissed if I was that other shop...
Thanks Addie!
BTW... if you owe anyone else here, you should take care of that also...just sayin'.
I submitted my layout with my bid the same as they did.
Say NO to free design work!!!
Wait....maybe in your case...nevermind.
I usually do but, this is an associate from my networking group and the business is right across the hall from me. He has gotten me out of computer jambs without charging me. So, returning the favor was only right.
I'm going to give you some friendly advice so you can gather more business, i truly believe you have the customer service skill to get more business then you currently get.
1.You have to invest money to make your business better.
I see no sign of that with your current setup. Get a tiny business loan - even like 5-6k.
1. adtechia.com <--- that website is godawful. fix it. As a consumer, I would auto ALT f4 out of my browser when your site loaded. Your town is pretty small, and I see no reason why you can't service a large chunk of your city for sign needs.
2. a Legible clean logo that represents what you do
3. If you can't do it, outsource it - Don't make your customer be a test dummy. (installs, design, etc.) There are a ton of vendors on here who can do projects for you, and you can still make a heavy profit on it.
4. As much as people want to believe it works -- direct mail post cards go right in the trash, don't waste your money on it. Try other forms of advertising. Go out yourself and do more sales.
5. Typically Brokers can afford to charge a little more because, they deliver everything to their clients. Make sure you add that into prices - your time is money..
even if you just fix your site, pay a bit to have someone design it..
It will help greatly.
Great Advice! and with the Exception of Direct Mail & the loan I agree 100%. (I don't want more debt than I currently have, however small it keeps me up at night worrying when I can pay it off.) Your list is not much different than my goal list hanging on my wall in front of my desk. Part of my reasoning behind the second job.