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Thinking of buying the SignWarehouse Vehicle Wrap Kit

Discussion in 'Vehicle Wraps' started by tomld, Jul 29, 2010.

  1. cgozza

    cgozza New Member

    Nov 17, 2004
    West Palm Beach
    We already recycle a lot of our materials - we donate scrap coroplast, vinyl & pvc to schools & other organizations who use these scraps for art classes & building things & such. As far as the latex printer & supplies being recyclable, I'm going by what the sales rep told me - I can't claim to know exactly what he's taking about until I get my printer & the documentation (it's supposed to be delivered tomorrow). I'm guessing they can refill the ink cartridges - don't quote me on that though.
  2. MachServTech

    MachServTech Very Active Member

    Sep 19, 2008
    North Carolina
  3. westcoastlocal

    westcoastlocal New Member

    Sep 22, 2010
    i bought that set up about 9 months ago and instantly realized that the printer was too small,if u go that route make sure to spend the exrta buck and get the 54 inch printer you kinda limit urself with the 48 inch rolls of media unless u dont mind paying more to cut it down or doing it urself, and u can cover panels better with it.
  4. kurupted

    kurupted New Member

    Aug 11, 2009
    tom from 509 Films?
  5. SignManiac

    SignManiac Major Contributor

    Mar 25, 2006
    Mars Florida
    I believe that is correct.
  6. MakeMyGraphic

    MakeMyGraphic Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    San Diego
    Wow... this was a very nice thread... It read just like a good book to me :)
  7. MakeMyGraphic

    MakeMyGraphic Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    San Diego
    well I am a noob here :p sorry! hehe if anyone has skeletons in the closet that got buried a long time ago I suggest they go away for a little while I finish rummaging here :)
  8. Deaton Design

    Deaton Design Very Active Member

    Feb 19, 2005
    Very nice of him to message that to Fred and apologize. Lotta respect for that for sure.
  9. MerlinPrints

    MerlinPrints New Member

    Jan 10, 2012
    hahahaha, a Pauly 1000
  10. visual800

    visual800 Very Active Member

    Aug 4, 2010
    montgomery, alabama
    Why not outsource this item before you plunge into thousands of dollars of equipment? You can get prints so cheap now it wouldnt cost you much to learn the niche and then if it pans out go ahead and buy your own
  11. Stuckup

    Stuckup Member

    Apr 22, 2012

    100%, when you get the install down, then look at producing yr own prints, besides you wont be paying for print head drop outs, wasted material etc. Printing is an art, install is an art, sales is an art, get em all Right then go all in.
  12. lexsigns

    lexsigns Member

    Dec 24, 2007
    Burlington ma
  13. FTG

    FTG Member

    Aug 17, 2011
    South Dakota
  14. brian_fellers

    brian_fellers Member

    Dec 9, 2012

    As an outside sales rep for Fellers, thank you for the kind words! :clapping:
    Prior to working for Fellers, I was also in the industry, and I ordered all my materials from Fellers for those exact reasons. Customer service, and great prices. Thanks again, I always love reading positive things about Fellers. :U Rock:
  15. I wish we had a 48 sometimes but a 64, no way. Most of the stuff we do we use 30" vinyl. For wraps it does mean more panels but less overhead. Beyond that the printer/cutter VP-300 we have works very well. Why have two machines when you can have one that does the same job(s). If you don't have a good cutter and are looking to replace it, and get one that has a marks reader, go for it. We print and cut the stuff we print right on the Roland - no problem. We are a small mom and pop shop and every dollar counts. If we had several employees with several work stations, etc. we would probably get larger capacity machines.
  16. Ryan T

    Ryan T New Member

    Mar 24, 2016

    I bought that printer and cutter when I first started my business and I worked the heck out of the printer for 5 years before the head went bad. I recently thought I was up grading to a Roland xr 640 and it was the worst mistake of my life! That little $8,000 Mutoh printed circles around my $25,000 xr 640. When the Roland works it is fast as hell but I have to print stuff 2 or 3 time and waste a ton of materials, it is over priced junk in my opinion. The Mutoh is not a speed demon, it is going to take 4-5 hours for a little car and 7-8 hours for a full size van to print. I would recommend it in a heartbeat. The Q54 is a beast, it is based off the graphtec and it will cut circles around my P.O.S Roland ! No exaggeration, my Q54 will do the same amout of work in 4 hours as my Roland can do in two days! You do have to be careful with sign warehouse because they are a little misleading or they were with me anyway. This was the first time I had bought and leased equipment so I was a rookie and they got me. In the lease they said there was a percentage buy out, when I asked what it was they expanded to me that it was just $1.00, when the lease was up my $1.00 turned into almost $3000.00. At the end of the day it was my fault, I should have had an attorney look at the lease for me, it would have saved me a ton of money. If you do have any problems with the machine you will have to ship it back to TX in the orginal box it came in, so keep them in a safe place because they charge you 400.00 for an orginal box to pack it in to ship it back. You will not get any one on one training, you get thrown to the wolves. They give you free phone support for a month or so then it's like 50.00 per call. At the end of the day I would by another machine from them but I would not use there finance company, I would call someone like Geniva Capital they had much better rates with a true $1.00 buy our option. I have attached a couple of pics so you can see the print quality. These are all after the printer was at least 3 years old or older with the orginal head!

    As far as cost go I'm not sure what it would cost to print on the Oracal, I used it one time and wasn't fond of it. I use the 3m 180cv3 with the 8518 and I was around $3 + or - a sf.
    Those prices you got quoted are in the best case scenario with the lowest ink consumption and zero wast on materials! Like I said they are a little misleading!


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  17. JBarraxSW

    JBarraxSW Member

    Jan 31, 2007
    leases, printers, warranties and such

    Hi Ryan.
    I'm glad you're doing well with your VJ48. Lots and lots of customers like you have found it to be a workhorse that cranks out excellent print quality day after day.
    I am sorry about your experience with that lease company. We have dropped them and partnered with a smaller company that has been much more customer friendly.
    I just want to clarify something about warranties. We offer a one year on-site warranty for the PrismJET VJ48 (aka 1204). We have a full time technician who does nothing but on-site service for our customers.

    The Q54 does have a three year warranty but, in the unlikely event you needed to have one repaired, it would need to be shipped back in the original packaging. So yes, save your boxes. Let me know if I can help you in any way.

    All the best,
  18. Vinyldog

    Vinyldog Member

    Mar 21, 2010
    Tulsa, Ok
    I wasn't aware that they even still made 48in printers or material.
  19. We started with a Roland VP-300 and now have a Roland SP-540. We use 48" as my wife's arms long enough to even use 54" vinyl. Most of our wrap panels are obviously less than 48" and we use 30" for everything else. We have a Seal laminator. We got the Roland because it prints and cuts. I think there is a trade off print with quality-speed vs. having an all-in-one machine. I think the Roland prints well but there are limitations like light greens and grays that create banding. We also don't have space for another machine, a big plotter. You really may not need a big plotter as most wraps are panels and don't need to go back through to be contour cut. If it's a big logo that is being cut we'll panel and cut that on 48". Our work flow is print-laminate-cut-weed.