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Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
that is a lie..... according to the last census, there are about 11 millions illegals, they definitely did not come in 4 years.
Not a lie. Marco Rubioyesterday, confirmed the number I quoted to you. This administration is on tv constantly telling us what's happening.
 
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Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
The Panamanians, they own the canal, nobody else
did you know that we built that canal? did you know that jimmy carter gave it to the panamanians? did you know that even though we gave it to panama, they decided to start charging us to use it and china was in control of it? did you know that marco rubio has now fixed the issue and we no longer have to pay for passage in the canal? did you know that the chinese are backing down now? this is a chess game to watch.
 

Stacey K

I like making signs
that is a lie..... according to the last census, there are about 11 millions illegals, they definitely did not come in 4 years.
You are wrong. Source below. These are only the ones that got caught and recorded. Millions more walked through without any type of encounter with board patrol.


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unclebun

Active Member
All those illegal canadians sneaking into the states to take advantage of the social programs, not to mention the tens of pounds of fentanyl that crosses the northern border every year...

Just yesterday before Trump paused the tariffs, he started on a tangent about Canada not allowing American banks into the country which is 100% false, we use Chase as our merchant processor and I have a citi bank credit card in my wallet right now. This was never about the border, it was just a fabricated emergency so he could use an executive order and bypass the usual checks and balances. Trump has done more for Canadian unity in the last week than any Canadian politician has done in 40 years, so thanks I guess...
It's not Canadians crossing the border. It's Indians (not native Americans).
In the 2024 fiscal year (October 2023 to September 2024), the U.S. Border Patrol (USBP) encountered nearly 200,000 people attempting to cross the U.S.-Canada border illegally. This is a significant increase from the previous fiscal year, when the USBP encountered 10,021 people.



Explanation
  • The number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Canada border has been increasing in recent years.
  • The Swanton Sector, which includes parts of Vermont, New Hampshire, and New York, has seen the highest number of illegal crossings.

  • Many of the migrants crossing through Canada are Indian nationals.

  • Some migrants are motivated by economic opportunity, reunification with family, or the belief that the U.S. has more to offer than Canada.

  • Many migrants are involved in human smuggling

There were 20kg of fentanyl seized by the Canadian and American authorities at the border. One kilogram of fentanyl has the potential to kill 500,000 people. If they seized 20kg, how much actually got across?
 

guillermo

New Member
did you know that we built that canal? did you know that jimmy carter gave it to the panamanians? did you know that even though we gave it to panama, they decided to start charging us to use it and china was in control of it? did you know that marco rubio has now fixed the issue and we no longer have to pay for passage in the canal? did you know that the chinese are backing down now? this is a chess game to watch.
so you agree the the panama canal returns to usa? good, then return Guantanamo to Cuba, return all the west coast to Mexico, including Texas.
what is the problem with charging fee to cross the canal to anybody crossing it, you charge fees for doing signs to everybody, correct? then, what is the problem, China? the entire world needs China, otherwise everything will be more expensive that it is now, and it will go up.
 

unclebun

Active Member
so you agree the the panama canal returns to usa? good, then return Guantanamo to Cuba, return all the west coast to Mexico, including Texas.
what is the problem with charging fee to cross the canal to anybody crossing it, you charge fees for doing signs to everybody, correct? then, what is the problem, China? the entire world needs China, otherwise everything will be more expensive that it is now, and it will go up.
six figure charge for a US ship, a small fee for Chinese ship? That was the problem that precipitated this. Along with Panama letting China establish a colony there.
 

Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
so you agree the the panama canal returns to usa? good, then return Guantanamo to Cuba, return all the west coast to Mexico, including Texas.
what is the problem with charging fee to cross the canal to anybody crossing it, you charge fees for doing signs to everybody, correct? then, what is the problem, China? the entire world needs China, otherwise everything will be more expensive that it is now, and it will go up.
I know you're upset. But I'm not sure why. Trump is cleaning up a mess he inherited. Aren't you in California? I can tell you I see more California license plates here in Texas because people are fleeing california in droves.
China has cheap crap. That's what my problem is with them. Lets make some good stuff here. Do you remember when we had american made products?
 

unclebun

Active Member
It's more than that. China's designs around the world are not just economic, though economic power is going to make it into no contest when they decide to exercise the strategic advantage they have amassed from their economic activity around the world. Which includes the control of the Panama Canal they have gained and their placement of a key natural gas station in Colon, Panama, right on the terminus of the canal along with the free trade zone they have taken over there.
 

CanuckSigns

Active Member
It's not Canadians crossing the border. It's Indians (not native Americans).


There were 20kg of fentanyl seized by the Canadian and American authorities at the border. One kilogram of fentanyl has the potential to kill 500,000 people. If they seized 20kg, how much actually got across?
the same argument can be made about handguns coming north across the border
 

Stacey K

I like making signs
Yes,
the same argument can be made about handguns coming north across the border
Yes, the Mexican president asked Trump about that. He did agree to help.

I very strongly believe it may take a little bit but I think all three countries will work together. We might be able to cut down on the cartel in Mexico which would make Mexico great again also. I love going to Mexico it's such a beautiful country with wonderful people. Would be great if it were safer and they could get their tourism back in full action without giving the cartel a cut.

North America could be one hell of a place if we can all work together.

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CanuckSigns

Active Member
Yes,

Yes, the Mexican president asked Trump about that. He did agree to help.

I very strongly believe it may take a little bit but I think all three countries will work together. We might be able to cut down on the cartel in Mexico which would make Mexico great again also. I love going to Mexico it's such a beautiful country with wonderful people. Would be great if it were safer and they could get their tourism back in full action without giving the cartel a cut.

North America could be one hell of a place if we can all work together.

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I mean north from USA to Canada
 

Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
handuns crossing the border into canada has been an issue since before I was born, it's not a democrat / republican issue. Almost every shooting that takes place here seems to be with a handgun that came over the border
My question wasn't geared around a republican/democrat issue. My question was geared toward the borders being open during the biden admin. They were open moreso under his presidency than ANY other president EVER.
 

BigNate

New Member
My question wasn't geared around a republican/democrat issue. My question was geared toward the borders being open during the biden admin. They were open moreso under his presidency than ANY other president EVER.
Are you sure?...........under Carter, Reagan, and Clinton I could cross Northern or Southern borders using only a state id or driver license... I even came back into USA using a HS school id when I was 15 (and driving a rental car that was rented to someone I was not related to nor were they in the car!)

I haven't heard anyone having it this easy in many years.
 

CanuckSigns

Active Member
My question wasn't geared around a republican/democrat issue. My question was geared toward the borders being open during the biden admin. They were open moreso under his presidency than ANY other president EVER.
Here's the info i found, this is homicide only, as you can see it's been pretty much a steady increase
 

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Gino

Premium Subscriber
Besides 4' flames burning my a$$, so does someone who tries to put words in my mouth and then argues against about something didn't say. Guill, none of what you're saying makes any real sense. Seems like all you do is google, cut, paste and regurgitate what you want. You are not focused and just bounce all over the place with no real beliefs system of your own, thus spewing all these pointless opinions.
 

unclebun

Active Member
Are you sure?...........under Carter, Reagan, and Clinton I could cross Northern or Southern borders using only a state id or driver license... I even came back into USA using a HS school id when I was 15 (and driving a rental car that was rented to someone I was not related to nor were they in the car!)

I haven't heard anyone having it this easy in many years.
The crossings we're talking about don't take place at the regular places like between Detroit and Windsor. They're making those more onerous but it's not where the illegal crossings happen. Apparently it's up in the northwoods of Maine and Vermont or something.
 
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