US Tariffs, Sigh!

[pro-UP]

Who collects the TARIFFS?.... The Government agencies. Who pays for the effects of the tariffs?... the users and finally the end-user. When people are paying more for stuff and the more is going to the government, that is CALLED A TAX!!! Plain and simple. Trump thinks that by raising foreign prices he will get industries to re-locate to the USA under the theory that the reason it was sourced out of the country is because it was cheaper to do that. Now that he made it more expensive companies will manufacture in the USA. BUT if they use raw materials that have to be imported the theory can fail on that point. Also, the only reason a US factory would look profitable is because the selling price is now 25% higher. They would be manufacturing with THAT inflated price in mind! So the Tariffs CAUSE INFLATION of pricing. BUT, no company would just jump on building a factory, because if the tariffs are ever backed off (which just takes a stroke of a pen) they would then have wasted their money on an unprofitable factory. This is a strategy from a little mind that only knows real estate properties and thinks that his tiny bit of self-confirmed ideas apply to everything in the world. The same one that conceived of a whole bunch of businesses that went bankrupt and some that he was sued over. So he does not have a good record when he goes out of his daddy's original businesses. Actual economists (who study their subject instead of just assuming everything they think of must be right,) will tell you over and over that they have NEVER seen good results medium or long term from tariff wars. They do not end up doing what tiny little minds think they will do.

It's getting serious now:

Quebec maple syrup producers fear ’major consequences’ from Trump tariffs

Quebec's maple syrup producers are worried they will take a big hit if Donald Trump goes ahead with his threaten tariffs. Read more here

financialpost.com

It got me thinking of how to hook up with the Canadian Maple Syrup Cartels to get a fleet of tanker trucks to run the northern border and smuggle this liquid gold into the US.

It's getting serious now:

Quebec maple syrup producers fear ’major consequences’ from Trump tariffs

Quebec's maple syrup producers are worried they will take a big hit if Donald Trump goes ahead with his threaten tariffs. Read more here

financialpost.com

It got me thinking of how to hook up with the Canadian Maple Syrup Cartels to get a fleet of tanker trucks to run the northern border and smuggle this liquid gold into the US.

There's a movie called "The Sticky" about the maple syrup theft. It looks pretty funny, I've been wanting to see it when I get a moment.

 

[JamesLam]

Interesting back and forth. And for the most part family friendly language.

I would think most would agree the main reason why we import from other countries is the lower cost of labour and local labour, environmental and regulatory practices. Until the US, Canada and the other G7 and G20 countries are in a situation where their labour pool is paid significantly less than other countries I cannot foresee much of the manufacturing coming back without huge financial incentives and relaxed regulations.

Regarding who is to blame we could go on and on. The original mind set here was what are our options and strategies going forward? Tariffs will affect all of us, regardless of where the raw materials or other products come from.

 

[BigNate]

We had tariffs in Trumps first term so I don't see that we will have any problem with tariffs in his third term.

...or fourth.... or fifth....

 

[ddarlak]

Your not going to convince a MAGAt of any truth they have been easily programmed to reject facts.

 

[Geneva Olson]

Your not going to convince a MAGAt of any truth they have been easily programmed to reject facts.

so...lets see if I have this right:
Dems in 2024: "Tesla is awesome and great for the environment"
Dems in 2025: "Elon is stealing our data, lets burn his dealerships".

(elon has always had capabilities of taking someone's data).

yet, maga is programmed?

 

[ikarasu]

so...lets see if I have this right:
Dems in 2024: "Tesla is awesome and great for the environment"
Dems in 2025: "Elon is stealing our data, lets burn his dealerships".

(elon has always had capabilities of taking someone's data).

yet, maga is programmed?

Musk is a crackhead, and it's just shown through more latelly.

The reason I wouldn't buy a Tesla is because their quality control sucks - we are getting an electric vehicle for our work truck... We had a deposit on a cyber truck for years.

Not having a back mirror when the cover is down is dumb - all the quality issues like panels falling off, the vehicle rusting... Tires needing replacing in months ...the fact he mocked lightnings for being too expensive and then cyber trucks cost way more, being almost 40% higher than what he initially said Hell, they just stopped delivering cyber trucks due to a huge recall. We opted to buy a lightning.

There's lots of reasons not to buy a Tesla.

But I think most people are protesting Tesla due to his Nazi salutes / doge, not just data but firing everyone. / other stuff they don't agree with, I don't think it's about data.

 

[Geneva Olson]

Musk is a crackhead, and it's just shown through more latelly.

The reason I wouldn't buy a Tesla is because their quality control sucks - we are getting an electric vehicle for our work truck... We had a deposit on a cyber truck for years.

Not having a back mirror when the cover is down is dumb - all the quality issues like panels falling off, the vehicle rusting... Tires needing replacing in months ...the fact he mocked lightnings for being too expensive and then cyber trucks cost way more, being almost 40% higher than what he initially said Hell, they just stopped delivering cyber trucks due to a huge recall. We opted to buy a lightning.

There's lots of reasons not to buy a Tesla.

But I think most people are protesting Tesla due to his Nazi salutes / doge, not just data but firing everyone. / other stuff they don't agree with, I don't think it's about data.

...only 28% of the population is protesting....according to msnbc recent polls, the dem party is floundering terribly...https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-party-hits-new-polling-low-voters-want-fight-trump-harder-rcna196161


what evidence do you have that says musk does crack?

 

[Snydo]

Whataboutism at its finest.
Trump 2024 - "I will end inflation on day one of my administration."
Trump 2024 - "I will end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours"

 

[XtremeXccessories]

so...lets see if I have this right:
Dems in 2024: "Tesla is awesome and great for the environment"
Dems in 2025: "Elon is stealing our data, lets burn his dealerships".

(elon has always had capabilities of taking someone's data).

yet, maga is programmed?

Most dems stopped liking Muskrat years before 2024. I've never really been a fan, but I realized he was a total douchecanoe in 2018 when he called that hero diver in Thailand a pedo because he didn't like Elon's baby submarine idea.
Musk doesn't have the capability to do squat diddly. All he has ever done is hire people smarter than him and then take credit for everything they do. When he does get involved you get a steaming pile like the Wankpanzer.

 

[Geneva Olson]

Most dems stopped liking Muskrat years before 2024. I've never really been a fan, but I realized he was a total douchecanoe in 2018 when he called that hero diver in Thailand a pedo because he didn't like Elon's baby submarine idea.
Musk doesn't have the capability to do squat diddly. All he has ever done is hire people smarter than him and then take credit for everything they do. When he does get involved you get a steaming pile like the Wankpanzer.

those astronauts that have been stranded in space for several months (originally an 8 day mission) are now on their way home, thanks to Musk and spaceX.

 

[Geneva Olson]

Whataboutism at its finest.
Trump 2024 - "I will end inflation on day one of my administration."
Trump 2024 - "I will end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours"

so it took longer than he claimed......that's not "whataboutism". he's doing what he said he would do. He has a mandate from the american people to do that.