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US Tariffs, Sigh!

Geneva Olson

Geneva Olson

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Gino said:
How many topics are going on in this thread ?? Not hard for me to do, but I think I'm getting lost. How much is butter in Great Britain ??
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is there a tariff on butter to great britain? land o lakes butter?
 
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ikarasu

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Guys, less cow and butter talk, you're making S101 send me cow porn ads.
 

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Gino

Gino

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Figures..... you canadians are a different breed. We can't send you a blessed thing.... you had to have gone there on your own....... prevert
 
White Haus

White Haus

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ikarasu said:
Duties work that way sometimes, but tarrifsare quite a bit different.

Anything that is going through America, or produced in America has tarrifs on it. All 3m vinyl is increasing, all Avery vinyl...

Pretty much every single product not 100% made in USA is getting a tarrif in some way or the other.... Pricing is going to go up substantially on most items.. a lot of stuff is directly shipped to Canada, but a lot of stuff just imports raw materials and then it gets produced in america, or it has some portion of the manufacturing in America... And then Americans get hit with the tariffs as well as Canadians since most of the supply chain goes through you guys.
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Have you gotten official increase notices on 3M / Avery already? I was assured that they weren't being affected (yet) the other day....I'm wondering when that changed. I know 3M just had their normal unrelated increase but I was told it didn't affect anything that we use regularly.

I know the story changes every day depending on which idiot is manning the calculator and how they interpret numbers and percentages (seems to be a big challenge for some people....even people with important jobs.....)

I'm not planning on panic buying anything but if we can at least grab a couple of months worth of stock for our most common materials, we can weather the storm until hopefully it passes.
 
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ikarasu

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White Haus said:
Have you gotten official increase notices on 3M / Avery already? I was assured that they weren't being affected (yet) the other day....I'm wondering when that changed. I know 3M just had their normal unrelated increase but I was told it didn't affect anything that we use regularly.

I know the story changes every day depending on which idiot is manning the calculator and how they interpret numbers and percentages (seems to be a big challenge for some people....even people with important jobs.....)

I'm not planning on panic buying anything but if we can at least grab a couple of months worth of stock for our most common materials, we can weather the storm until hopefully it passes.
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We buy direct from 3M, and our rep briefed us on the tariff situation. Commercial products and certain reflectives (Glass beads) are being affected by the tarrifs, but traffic reflectives are not, as 3M is eating the increase on traffic... My guess is because even though they have a force majeure clause in their contract.... traffic pricing is under contract for us, and they don't want to increase it - He doesn't have an exact # for it yet, but said it'll be happening shortly.


We have a contract we won for BC thats worth 140K... Our material cost is 60K, and it's a special order product from US 3M. It's on the list of items that will be receiving a tariff price increase.... It will be between a 15, and a 20K hit... which will knock all the proffit out of the job. Luckly we just re-signed the contract and did our own price is subject to tarrifs clause in it... But that'll still be a fun phone call, and I'm betting they put the order on hold until the tariffs go away.



I spoke to our grimco rep, and was told theyre in talks with all their suppliers right now, and from what he's hearing all vinyl will be going up on price, even some of their Canadian made vinyl - The tarrifs are so broad that somewhere in the supply chain, some part of it is produced or purchased in USA.

[Edit] I havent panic bought too much... I bought most of the epson ink that was in stock, between 2-3 of each color, We normally keep 2 on hand... so adding an extra wasn't too bad. I've been doubling up on some stock... Nikkalite reflective for example, I usually bring in 5 30" and 5 48" rolls at a time since it comes from USA - but with japan being hit hard with tarrifs... this time we brought in 10 of each roll, about a 3 month supply. Traffic products are what we mainly worried about - Hard to increase traffic pricing when it's under contract for most municipalities'. Commercial products like IJ40 / 180... Those generally get quoted at the time of the job, so if the product costs 25% more... it's not hard to increase the price to make up for it.

We buy Hi-coroplast, which is Canadian produced, so it wont be affected - Our supplier is bringing in Aluminum composite from China instead of USA... supposedly same brand, Aluminum already comes direct from China or Canada.

Polyplatye we use quite a bit of... manufactured in USA, usually we buy it by the skid and have a 6 month supply... But we'll be pushing people to alternatives, and only bringing in what we need. I dont know if the other PVC/Komacel type products are from US or not... Most of the stuff has an alternative.
 
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White Haus

White Haus

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ikarasu said:
We buy direct from 3M, and our rep briefed us on the tariff situation. Commercial products and certain reflectives (Glass beads) are being affected by the tarrifs, but traffic reflectives are not, as 3M is eating the increase on traffic... My guess is because even though they have a force majeure clause in their contract.... traffic pricing is under contract for us, and they don't want to increase it - He doesn't have an exact # for it yet, but said it'll be happening shortly.


We have a contract we won for BC thats worth 140K... Our material cost is 60K, and it's a special order product from US 3M. It's on the list of items that will be receiving a tariff price increase.... It will be between a 15, and a 20K hit... which will knock all the proffit out of the job. Luckly we just re-signed the contract and did our own price is subject to tarrifs clause in it... But that'll still be a fun phone call, and I'm betting they put the order on hold until the tariffs go away.



I spoke to our grimco rep, and was told theyre in talks with all their suppliers right now, and from what he's hearing all vinyl will be going up on price, even some of their Canadian made vinyl - The tarrifs are so broad that somewhere in the supply chain, some part of it is produced or purchased in USA.
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Good to know, thanks. Hope you get that contracted sorted out without anyone getting butt-hurt, although if they're not aware of what's happening or familiar with the word "tariff" by now, they've been living under a pretty huge rock.

I'll have to reach out to ND and see what they're saying today. I did see a warning that Drytac was going up soon. I had to laugh at that one, they've been peddling their products under the "Canadian Made" pretense, but obviously something from the US supply chain is affecting their bottom line already.

Interesting times............ :rolleyes:
 
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ikarasu

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White Haus said:
Good to know, thanks. Hope you get that contracted sorted out without anyone getting butt-hurt, although if they're not aware of what's happening or familiar with the word "tariff" by now, they've been living under a pretty huge rock.

I'll have to reach out to ND and see what they're saying today. I did see a warning that Drytac was going up soon. I had to laugh at that one, they've been peddling their products under the "Canadian Made" pretense, but obviously something from the US supply chain is affecting their bottom line already.

Interesting times............ :rolleyes:
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Have you met kyle yet? he was our sales rep... WPG poached him and he's the ND branch manager there now :roflmao: He's usually pretty good at prodding for info!

I know Canada does make PVC products... But a lot of ingredients go into vinyl fabrication - The good news is if 1 part is sourced from USA... it doesnt mean a blank 25% tariff, it could increase the cost by a couple percent only. Of course I bet those costs never come down... which is the shitty part.
 
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CanuckSigns

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Geneva Olson said:
That's a funny question. Did you believe the previous administration? Biden was incoherent his entire presidency.
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"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
 
JBurton

JBurton

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CanuckSigns said:
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
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Take your fake quotes and stuff 'em in a bag of milk. Just because ai can write like our fearless leader doesn't mean muddying up the waters with artificially generated bs is going to make anything any better. It's chuckle heads like you that are really generating strife, not the tariffs.
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MikePro

MikePro

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speaking of bags of milk ....UK charges less in tariffs than Canada for US dairy products. approx. 50% vs 250%.
still doesn't take AI to realize that we're getting the shaft here in the States, while also providing the most support for shipping routes.
 
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CanuckSigns

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MikePro said:
speaking of bags of milk ....UK charges less in tariffs than Canada for US dairy products. approx. 50% vs 250%.
still doesn't take AI to realize that we're getting the shaft here in the States, while also providing the most support for shipping routes.
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Again, that is not an accurate number, it's 250% after a certain quota has been hit, until that quota is reached there is no tariff on milk from usa into canada, also the quota is high enough that it has never even been close to being met.

I posted this video earlier in the thread, I highly reccomend anyone watch it who wants to see the actual facts on canada/us trade agreements and not what is in the clickbait headlines.

 
White Haus

White Haus

Not a Newbie
CanuckSigns said:
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
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Is this a real quote? Hard to tell sometimes, considering he speaks at a 4th grade level and probably has the IQ to match.
 
Geneva Olson

Geneva Olson

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It's a pretty well known fact that Trump doesnt use drugs, smoke, OR drink. His brother died from alcoholism and it made a huge impact on his life.
 
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