Welcome To Signs101.com: Largest Forum for Signmaking Professionals

Signs101.com: Largest Forum for Signmaking Professionals is the LARGEST online community & discussion forum for professional sign-makers and graphic designers.

 


  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

What are you using to clean the glass for vinyl?

Discussion in 'Vinyl' started by Colt, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. Colt

    Colt Member

    74
    0
    0
    May 19, 2012
    Looking to see what I could pick up locally to clean glass for vinyl install? I have been using denatured alcohol as I believe that should leave no residue. Not sure how well that cleans though. I do windex to clean the glass, then wipe down with denatured alcohol to remove residue.

    Also, did a glass door and removed old vinyl. Noticed when wiping the glass that you could see where the old vinyl was. I guess that's called ghosting? I used adhesive remover and some other stuff and could not get that cleaned off. You can't see it when the glass is dry, but can see it when you get the glass wet. What is that, and how do you clean it off? The stuff I was using should have cleaned any adhesive off. Wondering if maybe the vinyl etched the glass? It's a glass door that is outside.
     
    Tags:
  2. Craig Sjoquist

    Craig Sjoquist Major Contributor

    6,746
    4
    38
    Jun 18, 2004
    Orlando
    Bon-Ami 1886 formula nothing else cleans better
     
  3. Saw Trax

    Saw Trax Member

    193
    0
    16
    Jan 2, 2014
    Kennesaw, GA
    Denatured alcohol could leave a film. It depends on what chemicals are added to it. I always performed a final wipe down with isopropyl.

    -Larry
     
  4. Colt

    Colt Member

    74
    0
    0
    May 19, 2012
    Have read of isopropyl leaving a film and read that the denatured isn't supposed to leave anything behind.
     
  5. GB2

    GB2 Very Active Member

    1,917
    80
    48
    Nov 15, 2005
    Connecticut, USA
    The ghosting on the glass is there because that area was protected from the environment by the previous vinyl. The rest of the glass was subject to UV exposure and fine abrasion so most likely there really isn't anything to clean off. A cleaning with something like the Bon Ami might help to even out the surface. You could even try toothpaste if it's necessary.
     
  6. stusatwork

    stusatwork New Member

    11
    0
    0
    Mar 4, 2014
    Toothpaste

    I am a huge fan of CHEAP dollar store white toothpaste as a glass polish. I use it on CDs, DVDs, Glass. I even toothpast my windshield once a year. It won't take out big scratches but it does really well to even things out and remove surface contaminants as well as things embedded in the surface. I wipe it on with a microfiber cloth and polish just like a paste wax. Surface needs to be completely dry when you start. Then I clean the residue off with water (LOTS OF IT). Then a final wipe down with 70 + percent isopropyl. Let it dry thoroughly.
     
  7. mark-s

    mark-s Active Member

    967
    29
    28
    May 11, 2005
    SoCal
    91% alcohol

    mark-s
     
  8. J Hill Designs

    J Hill Designs Major Contributor

    15,549
    16
    0
    Sep 24, 2004
    craig gots it - bon ami original
     
  9. Makproductions06

    Makproductions06 Member

    27
    0
    0
    Aug 20, 2013
    Same here just gotta make sure you towels don't leave stuff behind...
     
  10. Moze

    Moze Precision Sign Services

    2,032
    156
    63
    Feb 27, 2012
    Dallas, TX
    I like Sprayway Glass Cleaner. Best glass cleaner I've ever used.

    Haven't tried Bon Ami. From what I can tell you have to mix it with water to form a paste? Seems like it would be messy to clean up...?

    Also, not sure if this is an issue, but the website says:

    "This formula leaves behind a slight, invisible film that protects the glass from salt spray making it a favorite for boats and seaside homes. This film keeps mirrors from fogging up in the bathroom too."

     
  11. on glass only.......Soapy Water spay bottle with two drops of baby shampoo, Large 6" Razor Scraper. And a Unger Black Blade Window Washer Squeegee. and PT to whip the mullins/frame edges. I don't think you will be able to remove the UV Hazing on the glass. If its a must for the job for whatever reason, you are best to find someone local the polish and removes scratches from commercial glass. try your local glass or tint (not cars) companies for referals.
     

  12. not sure why anyone use paper towels to clean a glass or windows. they leave lint....

    how i do it:

    spay with soapy water, scrap with blade to edges and bottom from the top down, center out.
    spray again, whip edges/frame with PT
    then use a black blade unger squeegee to rid the water to the bottom and edges
    and whip bottom edge where water collected with PT again.

    if you have tinted windows or lay any amount of decorative frost (full coverage not logos), this is the only way it should be done. if you don't scrap glass particles could stand on there. such as paint splatter.

    anther note...someone mentioned using adhesive remover on glass.....no no no no. soapy water and a blade is good. before you get crazy with the blade on any window ALWAYS check the glass for softness, if you hear a lot of clatter between glass and blade. then is either dirty or soft.
     
  13. Moze

    Moze Precision Sign Services

    2,032
    156
    63
    Feb 27, 2012
    Dallas, TX
    I agree with using soapy water and a squeegee. I don't typically carry a window bucket with me so for small jobs, I use the Sprayway to clean and a Swiffer to remove dust before applying the vinyl. For large jobs, I definitely think a window bucket, mop and squeegee is the way to go. Water with dish soap makes removing existing graphics fairly easy (I use a 4" scraper). The soap helps the blade glide over the glass.
     
  14. Colt

    Colt Member

    74
    0
    0
    May 19, 2012
    So you scrape the window down with razor blade even if you don't have to remove old vinyl?

    I'll make up some soapy water and put in a spray bottle. And probably bring a clean water spray bottle to help remove the soapy water.

    Then do final wipe down is 91% isopropal alcohol. I had read to use the denatured alcohol, but didn't know it leaves a film. I've already got 91% so I use that for final wipe down.

    What soap are you mixing in with the water? Regular hand soap? I'd figure a few drops would be good in a full spray bottle.
     
  15. shoresigns

    shoresigns Very Active Member

    1,519
    293
    83
    Nov 1, 2011
    Vancouver, BC
    Good tips. If you're spending more time cleaning the glass than you are applying the graphics, you're probably doing something right.

    Question though: what's wrong with using adhesive remover? If you've just removed old vinyl from the window you aren't going to get all that adhesive off with soapy water. We use Rapid Remover, followed by soapy water to rinse off the remover.
     
  16. mlm22

    mlm22 New Member

    2
    0
    0
    Mar 16, 2014
    Goo Gone will take anything off.
     
  17. Craig Sjoquist

    Craig Sjoquist Major Contributor

    6,746
    4
    38
    Jun 18, 2004
    Orlando
    Bon-Ami 1886 formula

    How to clean glass

    Clean rag, dampen & sprinkle on Bon-Ami 1886 formula ...( with cleaning windows this way you will know how much to use & how wet for rag & when )

    Wipe window area to be clean .....let fully dry.
    ..With another clean dry rag, wipe window clean

    100% clean no residue from anything left.
    1 can lasts 100s of windows for under $2
     
  18. The BEST clean for glass is:
    Spry with a dilute dish washing liquid ( 2 drops per litre) light scour with white scouring pad.
    Squeegee with a rubber squeegee, very important step as it removes any grit which could scratch in the next step.
    Spray again with solution scrape with overlapping strokes with a single sided razor blade, squeege.
    Spray again with solution scourer and squeegee.
    Spray again with fresh water (no dish washing liquid) squeegee.

    Window is now as clean as can be, cleaner than when it was manufactured.
    Cheers Brett :Australia
     
  19. DizzyMarkus

    DizzyMarkus Active Member

    822
    0
    0
    Jan 23, 2012
    Soap and water
    Razor entire working area
    Final with with Rapid Tac


    Markus
     
  20. visual800

    visual800 Very Active Member

    3,918
    265
    83
    Aug 4, 2010
    montgomery, alabama
    Iso Alcohol and razor. If the glass needs anymore than that they need to call someone else.

    I dont have time to be bonami-ing and toothpasting a glass, although these are all good suggestions for windshields that look like hell
     
  21. SIGNTIME

    SIGNTIME Active Member

    663
    14
    18
    Aug 13, 2012
    NY
    I use the same three things for every surface to be prepped. 1- a citrus based cleaner (for adhesive removal and other stubborn contaminates) 2- water with a couple of drops of dawn 3- 91% iso alcohol.... i use good lint free paper towels and plastic razor blades if needed and regular razor blades on glass.
     
Loading...

Share This Page

 


Loading...