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What kind of material would work best here???
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LOL, ...yeah.
Can you be very specific about your approach and give me a few pics, links and direction on how to make the sign this way???
lol, not me
Its his design...BUT great eye!! Do you have any suggestions for this project? I appreciate your opinions You keep telling me my approach is bad but then offer no real solution that you are willing to explain in detail. Can you give me some advice or help me figure out a way to complete this project so that the sign will look professional? I am doing my best to learn all I can, but I admit that I need help here. I really would appreciate your knowledge and expertise if you are just willing to show me or tell me what needs to be done.
Mosh
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This even had great music...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwcxZ30IyIs
John Butto
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pvc fun
tools needed, table saw with blade and dado blades, jig saw and hand tools pvc glue
Have a plastic place or do it your self, cut 1.75" strips of .5" thickness pvc (approx $60)
Purchase 6mm 4x8 ($150) metal composite and do as instruction shows.
Make all your 45's and dado cuts and glue together to form back
Print out logo on vinyl with overlam and install your 2" thick sign
tools needed, table saw with blade and dado blades, jig saw and hand tools pvc glue
Have a plastic place or do it your self, cut 1.75" strips of .5" thickness pvc (approx $60)
Purchase 6mm 4x8 ($150) metal composite and do as instruction shows.
Make all your 45's and dado cuts and glue together to form back
Print out logo on vinyl with overlam and install your 2" thick sign
These are great ideas guys. I really like the aluminum idea. The problem is I dont have any experience bending or welding aluminum... Hmmm...I like the PVC idea, but I wanted the 2 inch back to be formed like the logo. I really liked how you sketched it up too AWESOME!
Any books or videos you can direct me to that can teach me how to make channel lettering properly. What tools are needed etc.
Maybe I will call around locally and see if I can sub this out.
By the way. I AM a decal guy in over my head and I WANT to be a sign guy. I am grateful for your advice guys. I wont ever become a sign guy if I dont learn and this is the best place I know of to do that I have done alot of cool projects in the last 3 years and I learn more from every one
AWESOME! Any books or videos you can direct me to that can teach me how to make channel lettering properly. What tools are needed etc.
Maybe I will call around locally and see if I can sub this out.
By the way. I AM a decal guy in over my head and I WANT to be a sign guy. I am grateful for your advice guys. I wont ever become a sign guy if I dont learn and this is the best place I know of to do that
I have done alot of cool projects in the last 3 years and I learn more from every one 
I was advised to use PV bond for the two parts.
Any advise on proper paints? I was told all kinds of different paints, but I think semi gloss black enamel "one shot" is what I will use...
I was advised by the HDU manufacturer to us this Primer: FSC-88WB
No I cant do OCE printing, but I do know a shop about 30 miles away that can do it. Will the print look OK directly on the HDU? Will it last?
J Hill Designs
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Both PB Bond and FSC-88WB are made by coastal so yeah they are the correct bonding agent and primer. I would prime 3 times personally. 1 shot flattened down will work fine.
Jackpine
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Ditto.....I agree.
Gino
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The red 'A' you pictured was a single letter, but you're indicating you're gonna make a solid box cut out with vinyl or digitally printed faces.... kinda like a free-form channel letter.
If you're Hell-bent on doing this yourself, why don't you just laminate with an outdoor glue a mirrored finish to a 2" piece of HDU ?? Mask the mirrored side while being CNC routered. Leave the mask on and spray the edges. Insert a few set pins in the back and glue fast to the wall from a pounce pattern you made for the guy CNC'ing the letters. Or just order what you need from Gemini. They have exactly what you need. To get some extra relief off the wall, just do an off-set stud combination.
We do this all year long inside and outside.
You talk about learning to become a signguy. First lesson is to not always say yes, if you can't even do step number one of the entire project. Sure, you hafta learn, but not something like this at a customer's expense. There's no way you can do this without subbing the vast majority of this out. Let's go a little further..... what do the permits cost to instal this thing or aren't you installing it ?? Also, as a sign business, are you qualified to go up there and do this kind of work ?? Does your insurance cover you if you fall off a ladder or drop a tool on someone's car or head ?? What happens if the glue starts oozing out from the heat onto something expensive below you and you don't see it right away. Are you covered ??
You need to explicitly ask your insurance company what you are and aren't insured for, cause after the fact, you can't afford for them to say, sure you have insurance, but not for something like that........
If you're Hell-bent on doing this yourself, why don't you just laminate with an outdoor glue a mirrored finish to a 2" piece of HDU ?? Mask the mirrored side while being CNC routered. Leave the mask on and spray the edges. Insert a few set pins in the back and glue fast to the wall from a pounce pattern you made for the guy CNC'ing the letters. Or just order what you need from Gemini. They have exactly what you need. To get some extra relief off the wall, just do an off-set stud combination.
We do this all year long inside and outside.
You talk about learning to become a signguy. First lesson is to not always say yes, if you can't even do step number one of the entire project. Sure, you hafta learn, but not something like this at a customer's expense. There's no way you can do this without subbing the vast majority of this out. Let's go a little further..... what do the permits cost to instal this thing or aren't you installing it ?? Also, as a sign business, are you qualified to go up there and do this kind of work ?? Does your insurance cover you if you fall off a ladder or drop a tool on someone's car or head ?? What happens if the glue starts oozing out from the heat onto something expensive below you and you don't see it right away. Are you covered ??
You need to explicitly ask your insurance company what you are and aren't insured for, cause after the fact, you can't afford for them to say, sure you have insurance, but not for something like that........
John Butto
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There was somebody on here about a month ago with pics of how he made pvc channel letters. Think he is from OK and a talented sign maker. If you want to use the pvc to fit a curve you just heat it up and bend it to the shape you need.