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Any ideas would be great. Negative or positive. This is my first attempt, and hopefully I can develop my own style after a while. I have done wraps in the past, but not with much thought, at least in the way Dan and some others here approach design.

Screw it too...

screw it...

Congrats on the business partnership. What are you specializing in?

Just don't get why both "p's" aren't the same.

Seamless gutters maybe? Rather then guttering? Looks good, especially how the bottom words "seamlessly" flow into the shape.

So basically 3M is forcing the commoditization of a product (vehicle wraps) that shouldn't be commoditized. It is to labor intensive and to many factors for smaller shops to do it for such low prices, it basically will force these smaller guys out of that game (me included), and leave the big...

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priceless!

Thanks that was super helpful. It confirmed Avery is super easy to install. I have used Oracal for years on other products and I love their stuff. I may make the effort to learn on 3751. I get a free roll of supercast 75 ft and lam. Going to wrap my new van with it. However, I believe I will...

To clarify Joe, my mixed feelings are a result of this forum. I do not doubt what you all are saying at all. My mixed feelings concern: will Avery do better and have they changed their ways? maybe some sign shops were compensated better during the fiasco, and perhaps Avery did spend a ton of...

Well cert test tomorrow. I'll probably fail (like Avery did) just kidding. Justin has been great and always helpful. The thing is, wrapping is either easier then I thought, or the right material and techniques make it easier then I thought. Can't wait to try the Oracal stuff so I can see first...

Thanks Fred. I can understand that. What do you think of business that continue to support Avery? Just curious. Do you think they have no principles?

So no 3m, no Avery, so Oracal is King? This sounds all a lil emotional to be honest. Again, was there a class action, and if not why?

That seems too hot to do that and expect it to perform. I'd experiment with a couple brands to see if they behave the same.

I think I agree, but I'd like to learn more about the old issue.

Ok, so I don't know all of that. Performance wise, it handled today better then anything I have used. So without knowing the drama, I would be inclined to think "wow" this company has their **** together and has a product that works better then most others. However, seeing I now know some of...

I will also clarify we were using all Supercast Film. It was explained because of the repositionable technology, most failures are installer error. It has to be pushed pretty hard, and post heating has to be done at proper temperature for specific areas. I realize that is all basic for most of...

So just finished the Avery Wrap workshop. I came away with a somewhat mixed idea about Avery products. Let me explain. Justin Pate, a renowned wrap installer who currently works with both 3m and Avery. Just Avery in the states and 3m in Europe. He was our instructor. I admittedly did question...

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