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:ROFLMAO: Yeah I think it's safe to say we can find some common ground there. :omg:

No I would think inhaling would be the worst.

Techman, what you say makes a lot of sense for why they chose the image they did. I still think their decision was a poor one. They could have created an image that not only attracts those same white collar, tie wearing business men... but also attracts white collar women, blue collar men &...

As a designer I wouldn't have pitched that idea because it doesn't represent all business people, partly because of the sex thing, but also because there are a lot of hard working business folks that don't wear ties to work. The simple fact is: these days the tie represents a smaller cross...

Chill! First of all my comment isn't anti redneck at all, it's in response to Bob's comment about no more Indians, Redskins, Pirates, Vikings, which by the way I also don't have a problem with.... I don't mind being called a Yankee either, and I have no dog in your fight with Indianapolis...

The Jacksonville Rednecks?

And again, I'm not talking about lettering on a smart car. I know I've said that once. I'm not sure why a wrap and a super graphic on a semi would be any different in this case. Like I said we do a lot of those trucks, It's our bread an butter here and I can assure you they have just as much...

See that's the problem I have. The "right way" in your experience, on this particular subject, doesn't make sense to me. And that's based off our experience. If it were just left at that. Fine. no big deal, just a differing opinion on how to do a job. Actually not even necessarily on how to...

Have you seen these? http://nflogos.com/ some of them are kind of creative. I don't think they all lend themselves well to sports teams, but there are some creative ideas there.

Old one is better in my opinion. It is more stylized and has more style, the other one for some reason looks like a a clip-art design that any small town peewee team might use. Just an opinion though. Don't get me wrong it's not terrible.

No offense, but if you're that good at jumping to conclusions about a guy you don't even know, It makes me wonder if you jump to similar conclusions about the process other people use to do a job, just because it's different from yours.

Yeah I think that would probably pan out better than my idea to fake use the magic wand tool on her, or catch her with a fake lasso tool. :Big Laugh With game like that it's no wonder I'm still single. :ROFLMAO:

So how would you wrap this guys car? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmMXr9IFqhM

Awesome. Cute girl too!

You should have overlapped that with a panel in front of it. :wink::Big Laugh

I think if you do give them a second chance sometimes they become great clients because they now understand and appreciate what you bring to the table after experiencing the alternative and not being satisfied. The ones that don't come back, the ones that are only concerned with the dollar...

Bingo! Some of the trucks we do have just as much if not more exposed edge area than a lot of wraps out there. I'm talking large sweeping graphics that cover a good deal of the truck itself. The film is just as thick as film used on wraps because it's the same film we would use on a wrap...

The majority of vehicle work we do are semis. Not wraps, but large graphics with lots of edges. We use RA (for the rivets). These bad boys get a lot of wear and tear and with the exception of a batch of Avery that went bad on us back in the day, we have never had a truck come back due to...

I'm not sold on this. It's certainly not a big enough deal to call someone stupid or an idiot over. Especially when there is just as good of reasons to doubt it as there is to believe it. Like others have pointed out, why isn't this a huge issue with partial wraps, the front panel, or cut...

I see some issues with legibility and contrast. First of all, you are starting with an Old English variant which are typically more difficult to read. Not impossible, but more difficult. So knowing that, you need to make good use of contrast to compensate. In this case you are not. What...