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I was unaware he was no longer a merchant member. And I am no longer a merchant member simply because I didn't find it too beneficial with the format you set up. I do not put up ads, spam or go searching for work here to benefit myself, so not sure how you can say I still get exposure?

That's Neato's site, he's a member on here.

In my personal day to day dealings at my shop, the worst logos I've seen have always come from women, and I've never once been impressed by artwork that was designed by a woman. I tend to find most women THINK they are better than you though, which eventually wears through my patience wall I...

O please.... put that away. :doh:

Exactly. I've done a few jobs with one shot, and always over latex, and never a issue.

The sheer gale force required to blow over a 4' x 4' sign with only 6 screws holding it onto the poles, would more than likely rip the entire roof off of the building before it took the sign down. Regulations are needed, but some are ridiculous. To paint a logo on my building, it took 30 days...

To wrap up what Fred said in 2 words........ dumb designers.

Very tired of seeing it

You have 2 printers and no laminator? Personally I believe if you do not laminate your prints, you are considered a "hack shop". For the amount invested in printers... never considered maybe just dropping another couple grand on a laminator? Could explain a LOT of your peeling problems, but...

That's insane! I charge $380 for a full color, 4x8 coro!

Wasn't bashing your work bro. :) I don't think I've even seen it. However, here we have a guy putting something up for critique, don't ya think MAYBEEEEE he's going to get honest critique? There wasn't too much malice here honestly, maybe some teasing, but not malice.

We are a profession based industry, not commodity. To truly deliver the best results, you must have a level of pride in your work. Like a Dentist having pride in his perfect cap, a framer having pride in his perfectly build round stairs, a contractor pouring that perfect stamped concrete...

Alright, so this is nothing more than just a 10 minute quicky, but to show some of what I was saying. Lose the photos unless they are crisp and AMAZING, and just get the right "feel" across to the customer.

I guess with it being more as a memorial layout that does change things too. I'm just always on people about contrast, I like loud. But loud doesn't fit here. But you're probably right, for the application it'll work good! Nice job, I could tell it was a Diaz piece if I saw it in real life...

No cuz your evaluation of everyone was wrong and Jills design was a great improvement. We had a discussion and you threw manure at it.

welllll we were doing good in this thread until this. :) :wine-smi: But yeah, I'm not helping. So edited, but dude, no offense, it's re-evaluation time

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) happy Bday

That..... is awesome!!! hahaha

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To be honest it's too hard to read. Poor contrast. That said, it's very pleasing on the eyes and laid out well! Has a great feel to it, I just think a wee bit more contrast would've helped. :thumb: