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I didn't bring up the ladder, but also thougth it would be better without it. the font he went with is a little jarring as it all is clean copy and then, bang a jaggy scripty thingy

the one on the left with some space between the name looks good, is that the one he approved? I like the pool logo and the way you set the type in it. looks good.

I get what you are saying but if that car painter knew that cherry red was a color used to express that I was a dimwit and I had no idea, I sure would appreciate his experience and his sharing that info with me. when I go get my hair cut, I have a good idea of what I want it to look like. I...

I don't think he was insulting you, at least I hope so. it just all goes back to customer input and just how much of it we should or shouldn't do. what they wanted was what they think they need which isn't always the best thing to do. I liked what Tiki did as it doesn't need to have a sofa to...

if you can't figure out why, just go to your accessories, system tools and system restore and just set things back a day or the day before you clicked yes to the update. some times I just give up trying to figure out what went wrong and do that. maybe some of our other members will have...

good points for sure. the thing is a customer wants all kinds of crap thrown into a design because the think they have to have it. they think if there isn't a sofa, no one will get that they sell furniture. do you do what they want and then show them what works? I think so and am wondering...

OMG, just when I thought this looked really great Tiki comes along and makes it totally outstanding!

Hi and welcome!

it was the first time in all my long years that I have seen this used from a designer. now I know what it means, I'll throw the FPO onto proofs so I too can look cool as Mosh said

it just looks dated. the flame looks like a kit a 16 year old would buy and slap on his beater car to try to make it looks cool. but then, from the website, it most likely will appeal to the market they are going after. at least the site and vehicle look alike so go for it as he would want...

I hope she likes it as the re-do came out looking really good!

well.....I think it should be scrapped and the whole idea re-thought.

I like what you did with the x on the end. maybe try it all without all the outlines and black with just the wording under the name so that the name is the focal point

too bad on the customer input...I really liked the birds the way you did them

either works for me as it means the line doesn't really exist. thanks for the replies. I really hate it when I see something like this have don't know what it means. so glad I have all of you to ask rather than the customer!

thanks!!!! I've never seen that before!!!

I got this message from a "designer" and don't know what it means. I looked in our on site list of terms and didn't find it. All I can think of is that it means "for production only" but am unsure. help me not look like an idiot so I can reply like I know what I am doing:Big Laugh

thanks for the info!!!

I found this site too but am wondering if anyone here at our site has had experience with this stuff, had good luck or bad with a manufacture and so on. I value the opinions of our members as most will tell you up front if a product sucks or a company isn't good to work with.

what type of masking tape are you using? the 3M with the yellow core, not the white, works pretty good. it is like a rain forest around here every summer and I have had good luck with 3M. double up on the tape too with an overlapping layer, that some times helps too