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10yr Old Wrap Removal Suggestions
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WorxMedia
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Not sure what the condition of the current wrap is. Doing a site survey this Tuesday. If its not cracking then I will consider wrapping on top, with the disclaimer that the work will not be warrantied.
I came across this method while doing more research. What do you guys think about doing dustless blasting. It will take the wrap off to the bare metal. Will the surface have to be painted first? If not, this may be a cheaper alternative that spending a week removing by hand.
Dustless Blasting Fleet Vehicles
I came across this method while doing more research. What do you guys think about doing dustless blasting. It will take the wrap off to the bare metal. Will the surface have to be painted first? If not, this may be a cheaper alternative that spending a week removing by hand.
Dustless Blasting Fleet Vehicles
Texas_Signmaker
Very Active Signmaker
Just post pictures so we have a better idea what your dealing with instead of all this guessing. Try to remove a small section and see how it goes.
equippaint
Active Member
Blasting wont remove it like you think. It will take forever and it is guaranteed to ruin the paint. That aluminum will likely corrode pretty fast at that point too. A 10+yr old van trailer isnt worth much, id say go over top as I doubt they are going to want to spend a boatload to do this to automotive standards. If its in the budget to remove it, use a 4k lb hot water pressure washer or steam cleaner then come back and try to get off the leftover adhesive. I personally wouldnt do the job if it had to come off and was going to be this difficult. It ties up resources for too long when there are easier ways to make money.
Wrap straight over the top of the original wrap. Just remove any rough bits first..If they require the complete removal, a heat shrink gas type heat gun is the best.
Like this type..quick and fast heating of the vinyl. Gas Gun - Shrink Gun - Heat Shrink Gas Gun - Heat Gun
Like this type..quick and fast heating of the vinyl. Gas Gun - Shrink Gun - Heat Shrink Gas Gun - Heat Gun
Brandon708
New Member
Let us know if you find out what that formula is
petepaz
New Member
even that would be fine just quote the job with them doing the removal. what's the difference if they remove it with their secret technology real quick or you do it and take a long time. i choose not getting my hands dirty on that one
WorxMedia
New Member
Here are some pics of the wrap. It will deff have to come off. Wrapping on top is not going to work. closeups
My plan is to rent a high powered gas 3500hp Hot Water pressure washer to do the initial removal and some good old fashioned rapid remover and plastic scrapers for any left over adhesive. This will by my first "old cracked wrap" removal. I know its going to be alot of work, but I want to tackle this project to gauge first hand of how long this will actually take. Any guesses out there of an eta? 3-4 guys and 1 power washer.
My plan is to rent a high powered gas 3500hp Hot Water pressure washer to do the initial removal and some good old fashioned rapid remover and plastic scrapers for any left over adhesive. This will by my first "old cracked wrap" removal. I know its going to be alot of work, but I want to tackle this project to gauge first hand of how long this will actually take. Any guesses out there of an eta? 3-4 guys and 1 power washer.
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Texas_Signmaker
Very Active Signmaker
Can you not remove a small section to see how it is?????
equippaint
Active Member
This job is going to cost someone more money than that the trailer is worth. It is either going to be you or it will be the owner of the trailer. Considering you have no idea on how difficult and expensive this will be, my money is going on the latter. I may be way off here but Id bet it will cost you 3-5k to remove it with 4 people.. Then add in a profit, materials, rental, chemicals, mobe in, mobe out etc.
WorxMedia
New Member
Lol!
I just removed a very small section that was already lifting up and it wasnt too difficult to pull off. Thats not to say the whole thing will be like that. I did see that literally every rivet was tented and when I grabbed my plastic scraper and went around it the vinyl was very brittle and cracked off from around it.
WorxMedia
New Member
Have you ever done a wrap removal like this? Im just wondering since I have not but here is my math/ logic.
5 Gallon bucket of Rapid Remover - $250
1 week Rental of machine - $600
1 work week (5days) of hired help 3 guys @ $15 per hour/8hour days - $1800
Lunch - $250
Total is $2900 cost.
Multipy cost x 100% = $5800.
Feeling of accomplishment if this actually works, and we get to print & wrap it again = Priceless (LMAO)
Thats what Im thinking about quoting on this job. If they go with it, cool. If not, no worries, Im still doing a 14' trailer wrap for them (without removal ready to go).
What say you??
equippaint
Active Member
You are grossly underestimating your labor. For one, you need to be paid to work so its $2400 plus workers comp and taxes so say 3200 just payroll. Then you have to account for overhead in it too. Id figure a minimum $30/hr on the real low side if you dont have a shop or much of one for your true labor cost so 4x30x40=4800 add 1100 materials and youre at $5900 with $0 profit. So say 40% puts you at $8260.
The biggest mistake you will make is not knowimg or considering your true cost of labor. Its much higher than you would guess.
Theres a reason the car & truck dealers charge $125/hr in their shop and its not because they are greedy.
I have removed crappy cracked up wraps, not on trailers though. Where its all tented you end up with corrosion that cant just be covered back up. Its a pain. We buy and sell equipment and anytime theres a crappy wrap we just plan on painting it and I add in a few days extra shop labor to cover the removal.
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