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Just finished this sign today
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SignsSupport
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Really nice work. A definite improvement and upgrade on the previous banner.
Looks great. Congratulations.
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Looks great. Congratulations.
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Billct2
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I took a look, thought nice sign, shame they didn't paint the wall first and moved on...till I just read Rick's post. The letters are clearly messed up exactly how he has shown, and you can see it in the pic of them on the ground. The Y is obviously thicker and you can see the center of the P is off. Customer will probably never notice...and then again if the logo designer sees it they might.
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ams
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This is how bad the artwork was when I imported it. Apparently someone traced it or attempted to steal it off something like shutterstock and didn't bother to clean it up. However I didn't produce that banner, their box truck, their sponsors sign or any of their other stuff. So this is the only file I had to work with.
Rick
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So my original thought was that your CNC software cut the perimeter of the typeface, and the tool path on the holes were not aligned correctly.
What it appears to me now is...
The outside of your offset letters were selected, but the insides of the unmodified letters were selected. Then sent to the router.
I would go back to the software you used, offset the path... take a look in wireframe to see if it's consistent (like mine) you may find that the incorrect vectors were selected. Again, I can see that happening... not an idiot mistake, just an oversight. We all do it.
If it were me in your position, I would always do this type of modification in Corel (or Illustrator) Then send it to my routing software.
I would never use my routing software because it's clunky, the selection tools are clunky and I always want to keep a record of my files in a useable format for the client - like Corel
What it appears to me now is...
The outside of your offset letters were selected, but the insides of the unmodified letters were selected. Then sent to the router.
I would go back to the software you used, offset the path... take a look in wireframe to see if it's consistent (like mine) you may find that the incorrect vectors were selected. Again, I can see that happening... not an idiot mistake, just an oversight. We all do it.
If it were me in your position, I would always do this type of modification in Corel (or Illustrator) Then send it to my routing software.
I would never use my routing software because it's clunky, the selection tools are clunky and I always want to keep a record of my files in a useable format for the client - like Corel
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ams
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I use Corel X8. But if a customer provides their "logo" and it's a nasty file, a lot of times they don't want you to touch it. I've tried cleaning up things before and they tell me that I altered it and need to redo it how it was sent to me. It's always a losing battle for sign shops.
Rick
Certified Enneadecagon Designer
I was told a long time ago by one of my mentors that playing with someones logo depends on how well you know the client... you would never stick your finger up a clients nose (logo) to pick out a booger, but some will let you insert it up their butt (logo) if they trust you...
I personally would not have offset the letters for the reason you did. It makes sense why you did, I can see why you did, and I would not argue that at all, we all have varied production processes. But when I mess with someone else's file, it's easy to miss something... I try to avoid modifying at all costs.
Here's my guess:
You selected the letters and did a profile cut going on the outside. The software cut the outside of the interior of the "o" and "a" instead of doing an interior cut. If you group the "o" and "a" in your router software, it likely would not have done this. This is why the letter's interior appears to be off roughly 1/4".
Also one hint for laying out your drill holes. Draw 3-4 horizontal lines. Then drop your drill holes on those lines. If that line is level, your letters will be level.
Also in the future, you don't necessarily have to tap all those holes. Drill the hole the exact size of the stud. Fill with silicone/Lexel and insert the studs. Saves a bunch of time vs tapping so many holes, especially on thinner material where it's hard to get many threads. One advantage of PVC/wood to acrylic is you don't have to do either method. Just cut the holes slightly undersized and screw your studs in.
You selected the letters and did a profile cut going on the outside. The software cut the outside of the interior of the "o" and "a" instead of doing an interior cut. If you group the "o" and "a" in your router software, it likely would not have done this. This is why the letter's interior appears to be off roughly 1/4".
Also one hint for laying out your drill holes. Draw 3-4 horizontal lines. Then drop your drill holes on those lines. If that line is level, your letters will be level.
Also in the future, you don't necessarily have to tap all those holes. Drill the hole the exact size of the stud. Fill with silicone/Lexel and insert the studs. Saves a bunch of time vs tapping so many holes, especially on thinner material where it's hard to get many threads. One advantage of PVC/wood to acrylic is you don't have to do either method. Just cut the holes slightly undersized and screw your studs in.
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DerbyCitySignGuy
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I'm not going to argue with you. I read exactly what you wrote, which is that non-profits have too much money and they pay their directors too much. It's in writing. You were objectively wrong based on the information TimToad linked.
Anyway, not gonna argue, there's no real need. Hope you're having a better day than I am!
ams
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The executive director thanked us a half dozen times and said it was awesome and that she was very happy with it. So if she is super happy with it, I am happy.
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