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Misinformation about PrismJET VJ48/Mutoh 1204
- Thread starter JBarraxSW
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Graphics2u
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You must not have checked with GEI, they have a lock on the highest prices!
longbeachmichael
New Member
GEI's prices on both parts were about $500 less
Graphics2u
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Man, that is hard to believe! Everything I've ever priced from GEI is high!
Graphics2u
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Just curious, What did the main board cost for your 1204?
longbeachmichael
New Member
$1115 from GEI
Graphics2u
New Member
That's not bad. The mainboard for my Falcon II from GEI was $3700! That's robbery in my book. I'm sure it a more complex board but 3 and half times the cost????
longbeachmichael
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robbery is asking $2180 for a printhead that you can get everywhere else for about $1200
Graphics2u
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Was that price through a Mutoh dealer? Heads with a Mutoh part # or any OEM Manufacturer are always more expensive. To order a head for my printer that is sold as Mutoh head is around $1400. But they can be purchased from numerous suppliers from $650-$800. Irritating!
chrisphilipps
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The VJ-1204 can not print with a 1" margin arround a true 48" wide print. When printing 48" wide the printer only has about a .2" margin on the right hand side because of the way the left hand covers are, the print head simply doesn't have enough room on he left to slow down if the image is any further to the left.
JBarraxSW
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I was just talking with one of our color technicians about this question.
You can print 48" unidirectionally in Graphics One mode. If you load 48" banner media, that leaves a total margin of one inch.
You can print it so that you'll have about a half inch margin on either side, but it takes some finessing to set it up because you have a margin set by the RIP software (typically on the right hand side) and a margin set by the printer.
Do a test with a wide narrow graphic and set it up in your RIP about a 1/4" from the default position, then print, measure and adjust.
You can print 48" unidirectionally in Graphics One mode. If you load 48" banner media, that leaves a total margin of one inch.
You can print it so that you'll have about a half inch margin on either side, but it takes some finessing to set it up because you have a margin set by the RIP software (typically on the right hand side) and a margin set by the printer.
Do a test with a wide narrow graphic and set it up in your RIP about a 1/4" from the default position, then print, measure and adjust.
bob
It's better to have two hands than one glove.
Sure you can. All it requires is a little elementary arithmetic. You don't even have to do any long division. Better yet, if you're using Flexi, it will do the arithmetic for you.
Attend...
The 1204 has a right margin of 3mm. At least mine does, I seem to vaguely recall that you can set this. But assume for the nonce that yours is setup like mine.
To print a 48" banner with a 1" margin all around, make a 46" wide image. Then in your software, Production Manager for Flexi, specify a right margin of 1"-3mm. You can enter it in exactly that way in Flexi and it will do the math.
If you want to print a 48" banner with full bleed, assuming you're going to hem it, make a 47" image and set the right margin to .5"-3mm. This will give you a 1/2" margin all around which, when turned back and hemmed, should give a full bleed on the image area and stay withing the maximum width of 47.5" for bidirectional printing..
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Stealth Ryder
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trakers
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You fellas would most likely go out and hit someone in the head with a tack hammer if you knew the actual production costs of PC boards.
At a former employer we designed and ordered in massively complex PCB's (we're talking 13 and 14 layer) with ass loads of surface mount components and the total production cost of the stuffed boards was but a tiny fraction of $3700 (like 1/37th).
At a former employer we designed and ordered in massively complex PCB's (we're talking 13 and 14 layer) with ass loads of surface mount components and the total production cost of the stuffed boards was but a tiny fraction of $3700 (like 1/37th).
Stealth Ryder
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I find this very, very hard to believe, There has to have been a mistake made somewhere. Just not possible.
digitalsolutionsok
New Member
I find that alot of people in this forum blast people that are helpful. Its hard to understand until you see or meet these people in there shops.
Honestly theres alot of variables and no one man can teach a shop all of this so therefore you get this "misinformation" when in reality its just impossible to engrave this info. into everyone's head so that they can grasp it and understand it at the same time.
Props to JERRY ,, the effort has to be worth the reward.
Honestly theres alot of variables and no one man can teach a shop all of this so therefore you get this "misinformation" when in reality its just impossible to engrave this info. into everyone's head so that they can grasp it and understand it at the same time.
Props to JERRY ,, the effort has to be worth the reward.
longbeachmichael
New Member
jerry is a good guy, i just wish i had gotten price quotes from him, it turns out i was given the wrong price quote.
digitalsolutionsok
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That stinks but michael if you have a price quote on paper from a company it is just that a quote.
They cant go back on it please tell me its on paper and just wasnt word of mouth. If so next time make them fax a quote so that they can be held to there word a mistake is a mistake someone must pay for it!
They cant go back on it please tell me its on paper and just wasnt word of mouth. If so next time make them fax a quote so that they can be held to there word a mistake is a mistake someone must pay for it!