no offense, it's not about how nice people treat you, it's about the fact that you, starting to toy with some equipment and materials is considered a hobby.
Trying to sell your skills of toying around with your hobby is detrimental to the trade.
Yes we all started somewhere, but for most, that somewhere was working in this field, discovering a talent for it and a passion for it. It's not rocket science, but like anything worth doing, it is something you can never stop learning. Many of us have paid a lot of dues to be where we are at in this industry, and honestly, there are no shortcuts.
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing well, but that takes time.
If you try to establish a business... that is ANOTHER learning experience all together, and another one that requires some serious dues to be paid before you will reach a professional level.
As I said, no offense intended, I didn't tune in to this thread to take isue with your newness... but Techman simply stated a factual observation, to which he has every right to state.
Is it a reasonable assumption that he, or anyone else is not aware of the fact that this is a n00b forum? No, one your first day here, speaking to people who have spent every day here for years... it is not a reasonable assumption, it is a sorry little example of you trying to set your own boundries & claim your own rights.
You are mistaken, this is a "new member' welcome... not any more geard specifically to n00b signmakers then any other. You are quite welcome to be a new member, just as you are welcome to be a new signmaker, but disrespecting your peers on your first day here sets you up for being respected just a little less by others.
Is that what happens when you stay in this business for awhile???
...NO, that's what happens when mommy kicks you out of the nest... it's a dog eat dog world, and if you will make it, it will be because you learn to be honest about what you see, to call a spade a spade, and to accept you own place without denial, while you jocky for position, and carve out your own turf.
Welcome to signs101! You may not get to lay claim to some harsh-reality free zone... but you do get to learn just about everything you need to know here!
Don't worry, we can all be jerks, you ain't the lone ranger there... but it ain't always gonna help you being a jerk just because you don't like the facts of your own existence being exposed.