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Some memes I created
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I never said EVERY Scout would become those things or succumb to the social conditioning the process aims on kids.
Good on you for using your own moral compass to distinguish between the indoctrination process that was being attempted and using your critical thinking skills and self-adapted ethics throughout your long life.
Yeah, that's what they've always said about priests and sexual abuse in the church too. It's just a few, isolated incidences and the good outweighs the bad. I never suggested we shut down the Scouts, just that its not exactly the perfect example of a moral code to live by in a multi-cultural, secular society like ours.
Our lives in America are decidedly political because of the level of social control being exerted by organizations that seek government funding, tax exemptions, etc. all the while thumbing their noses at the cultural, racial, religious and secular nature of our guiding principles. Folks like me wouldn't argue things politically if those abuses of our political foundation wasn't being violated by so many trying to force their agenda onto others.
Until very recently, it was not just "some" leaders trying to twist and mold the Scouts into their image, it was the actual by laws, requirements and Scout code that perpetuated Christian superiority and required religion, the denial of membership to those of other religions, atheists, agnostics, homosexuals, etc. To this day and just until YESTERDAY'S announcement of their severing of ties after 105 years, the single biggest sponsor of troops and dens is the Church of Latter Day Saints.
I'm not insinuating anything, its right there in the history of the Scouts for all to see. I also had great experiences and can attribute some of my moral code and values to my experience, but not all of them.
Wow! All I can say after finally reading the unbelievably insulting, hostile, incredibly personal and guideline violating posts you were responding to that nobody else but you seem to have any issue with is THANKS for attempting to provide even the slightest push back on what most here have just turned a blind eye to. I usually leave the person involved on Ignore, but after you made mention of my initials, I assumed that I was missing something.
I honestly can't imagine how any moderators or principles of the site who are interested in maintaining any level of decorum, professionalism or appeal to newcomers can't see a problem with these kinds of attacks, but that's their problem.
When we live in a culture where someone can't make note of actual events, transgressions, historical actions, etc. in a general way without them being perceived as an attack upon an individuals, their faith, their beliefs, etc. without becoming the target for a level of true hatred like the poster involved exhibits on a nearly daily basis, people should fear what's next.
I challenge anyone to prove anything I stated about the Boy Scouts or the Catholic church's long running practices, denial of entry to those of other religions, atheists, homosexuals, sheltering of pedophiles, etc. is false.
It is perfectly clear how the attitudes of intolerance I warned of emanating from some who went through both the Boy Scouts experience and a heavy religious upbringing aren't some abstract construct of my imagination. Based on the very memes which started the discussion, the hostile, hateful, angry outbursts of the one person here whose name could literally be Pot M. Kettle, my points have been more than confirmed.
SignsSupport
Support & Tech Administrator
I personally find the entire thread to be distasteful and a bit more provocative than is necessary for Signs101. The site owner has approved the thread - so the discussion goes on and the thread will remain open. I'd caution you all to keep the conversation pithy and not so filled with passive aggressive, personal attacks. That being said, I'm going to suggest that Signs101 create an all-encompassing and thorough set of posting policies/guidelines which if broken will result in punitive action in the form of warnings, infractions, post moderation and ban, either temporary or permanent.
Signs101 is a diverse community. So I'd advise that you all keep that in mind and please be cognizant and respectful of those with differing opinions than your own.
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Signs101 is a diverse community. So I'd advise that you all keep that in mind and please be cognizant and respectful of those with differing opinions than your own.
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Johnny Best
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Marlene sums it up perfectly.
Talk is cheap. Some of us will have to believe the ownership is serious about creating a non-threatening, consistently moderated site when we see real change implemented and the worst offender on a daily basis is dealt with in a reliable and long lasting way.
The most insulting remarks and personal attacks despite being reported days ago as such are still visible.
Gino
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Ya know....... you're as guilty of this as you are insinuating I am. You even agreed with someone who said we were both lashing out. Bigdawg said the kettle - pot syndrome and you agreed. Doesn't that equate to you are just as guilty admittedly ??
Now, you wanna tell the admins how to run this place and put yourself in charge of who can be here or not. Who do you think you are ??
What I don't understand is why you think I'm so guilty of the very same actions you put out, but don't recognize your own shortcomings and flaws ?? You have all the psychological views, political views and none of them are your own views..... you just copy and paste stuff. So original.
You're so interested in getting me kicked out.... and yet, you do the same thing in almost all of your posts. You are predictable and condescending, but you wanna be clever and try to hide your true thoughts. I'm just straight out honest about liking something or not liking it and you for some reason, have a problem with that. Why ??
This whole thread could be put to bed and no one will ever read it again, but you keep stirring the pot and re-fueling this particular thread to do harm. The whole community agrees this is a worthless and quite senseless and thoughtless thread, but for some reason..... not you.
Now, you wanna tell the admins how to run this place and put yourself in charge of who can be here or not. Who do you think you are ??
What I don't understand is why you think I'm so guilty of the very same actions you put out, but don't recognize your own shortcomings and flaws ?? You have all the psychological views, political views and none of them are your own views..... you just copy and paste stuff. So original.
You're so interested in getting me kicked out.... and yet, you do the same thing in almost all of your posts. You are predictable and condescending, but you wanna be clever and try to hide your true thoughts. I'm just straight out honest about liking something or not liking it and you for some reason, have a problem with that. Why ??
This whole thread could be put to bed and no one will ever read it again, but you keep stirring the pot and re-fueling this particular thread to do harm. The whole community agrees this is a worthless and quite senseless and thoughtless thread, but for some reason..... not you.
Why not just start a new campaign/thread against me and try it on your own. 
Texas_Signmaker
Very Active Signmaker
Why not just start a new campaign/thread against me and try it on your own.
This was already done, and a majority of people wanted you banned.
Johnny Best
Active Member
I like the post. It went from someone's attempt at humorous Memes to finding out about the Catholic Church and pedophiles, people losing their faith, Boy Scouts is dead and now just Scouts, some member on here telling us they are transgender. Merit badges given out, come on people, this is good stuff, talk is cheap, unless you are paying a lawyer for talking. Banning other members for giving their opinions and then a grammer lesson on the word "your" or "you're". And the Toad thinks he is Gary Cooper in High Noon where none of the townspeople will back him with a "bad guy" coming to town to do him harm.
I think it covered just about everything. Good stuff!
I think it covered just about everything. Good stuff!
CanuckSigns
Active Member
Texas_Signmaker
Very Active Signmaker
Nice recap, lots of different directions the conversation went. Now spend a half-hour on Wikipedia and try to recap and figure out where you started. Impossible!
I think the issue is that the memes in question weren't funny to many who viewed them and its within everyone's right here as members to weigh in on any thread they'd like. Especially when the creator of them is unapologetic about defending them despite the overwhelmingly negative reaction to them.
That would be one simple solution, but when one creates something specifically to get a rise out of people, not quite as simple. Nobody can be that opaque to not see the mine field they laid and then continued to try and defend.
SignsSupport
Support & Tech Administrator
I can appreciate the passion of your reply TimToad.
I agree with the sentiments and will be sure to pass them on to the Signs101 owner. Thanks.
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