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  1. Designing for signs

    The statement is interesting... -- if you can't design, don't touch it... it's that simple... -- If you can't make money on showing options - don't do it... but the fact is, most signshops do layout for free to sell a sign...
  2. Designing for signs

    In spirit, I'm going to agree with your comment... I got the book when it came out... 1986 I believe? I read it, then, as suggested in the book, thoroughly went through the book a few more times. At the time I read the book, I had already learned to letter some 8 years earlier from a sign...
  3. Designing for signs

    After reading some of these responses I have come to a few conclusions... -- The reason people go to college is there is no one else to teach them. -- I think I would want someone who went to school for a few years and spend 100k+ over someone watching a few youtube videos and can make boxes...
  4. Designing for signs

    I didn't go to school (ok, I went for 6 months and dropped out...). I was mentored by quite a few ruthless old farts... I was taught: Order, Variety, Contrast, Symmetry, Tension, Balance, Scale, Texture, Space, Shape, Light, Shade, Color as well as Proportion, Conspicuity and Relation (to the...
  5. Designing for signs

    Skills and talent are 2 different things... As seen on many examples (good and bad) on this site, you can be taught the principles of design and drawing enough to service the needs of most of our clients... only a select few have been sprinkled with magic dust...
  6. Wausau

    Since they just re-published the forum rules, you should be informed that file sharing is not allowed.
  7. Designing for signs

    My personal opinion on a design degree is: It depends on the degree. It depends on how the applicant applies what they have learned. It depends on the needs of the signshop. The same thing applies to experience. One of my favorite things to say is: Do you have 10 years of experience, or do you...
  8. Question Sign Post Structure

    So, the sign originally had an EMC - that was removed, another attached to it - but is now 10' taller? (edit - so the cut off some of the post, and you want to restore it to it's original height?) Were there drawings submitted to the city? Like JTBoh states: are there drawings of the original...
  9. Designing for signs

    That's a trick question... What kind of sign design? or do you mean "layout" Can you (or anyone in your shop) layout a sign? Most here can hit a print button, cut a panel, and slap something on a substrate. I believe layout (with some real design) is the main thing that differentiates one shop...
  10. Question Sign Post Structure

    Not any engineer will work, you need to find an engineer licensed for your state... You question is vague as to post size since we don't know what the total structure looks like. I would design the sign as far as you can take it. Send it in for engineering, but I imagine you need 12" min post...
  11. Rant Large pylon sign

    I've always been a fan of your companies work. I got to tour the shop about 15 years ago... very impressive then, I can only imagine how much better it is now. I remember being a snot-nosed production designer talking to designers who worked there, it was a goal to work at a shop like that. I...
  12. Adobe Photoshop Gradient Question

    Did you click on your GRADIENT tool (G) and look in the upper left hand corner to see if that gradient show up in the gradient selection window? If it is: -- open a new file, the size required... -- Add the required layers needed -- Make a rectangle -- Gradient Tool -- Select the Gradient in...
  13. Just finished this sign today

    I was told a long time ago by one of my mentors that playing with someones logo depends on how well you know the client... you would never stick your finger up a clients nose (logo) to pick out a booger, but some will let you insert it up their butt (logo) if they trust you... I personally...
  14. Just finished this sign today

    Yikes!
  15. Just finished this sign today

    So my original thought was that your CNC software cut the perimeter of the typeface, and the tool path on the holes were not aligned correctly. What it appears to me now is... The outside of your offset letters were selected, but the insides of the unmodified letters were selected. Then sent...
  16. Just finished this sign today

    When I superimpose my offset path, with your plot file, I get this... I included a .pdf so you have access to that... What program did you offset path? Was the typeface in the original file compounded, or not?
  17. Just finished this sign today

    When I offset that typeface I get this...
  18. Just finished this sign today

    After seeing this, I agree...
  19. Sales Assistance

    Trust is a big issue and making a process that allows the salesperson to do their job, while the owner is knowing whats going on is a big deal. Micromanaging would kill the process. I agree with the above. (except for having them sign a non-compete - I would never sign one either) Personally...
  20. Sales Assistance

    Just questions to ask yourself... What kind of sign shop are you? Do you have a process already in place that would include an efficient use of a salesperson, including ways to quantify the efficiency and progress of the salesperson? (sales/contact sheets, reporting progress that is trackable)...
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