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We made a sandblasted signfoam sign for a client one time, acrylic paint, a brand we have had zero issues with, the good stuff. 4 years later we get an email from this client. He claims that our sign was failing. He specifically used the word "de-lamination". First of all, it wasn't a product...

lol ^this

:thumb: Yeah, just never show the client the bad ones because they will always end up picking those. LOL

I agree with Rick's statements. I also think that during the learning stages of being a designer.... actually imho we should never be completely out of the learning stages but I guess I mean early on.... it's good to "polish a turd" from time to time. You learn a lot that way. I was fortunate...

That's better, now looking back at the first design, where most would say it should be abandoned all together, there is something about it you could carry over to your latest attempt. See how you have a larger "MM" over "design"? Why not apply that to your newest design. Using different fonts...

I like the concept using the negative space. Normally I try to avoid doing things like that with your lettering because it harms the legibility of the design, but I think since the effect supports the name and also keeping in mind that the core is a short word. I think it reads fine. I might...

I'm not sure the splat imagery lends itself well to a company dealing with graphic design or sign making. The first thing that is going to come to mind for the majority people that see splat imagery is "messy" Did this sign makers printer malfunction? Are they a painter that has a difficult...

You know bob, for someone who claims that being upset with other's comments is a choice, you sure seem to choose to get worked up by other's comments an awful lot.

Don't you just love how political signs have a different set of rules, (usually much more lax). It's almost as if the people writing the rules are writing them to benefit themselves. Hmmm that can't be right.

Yeah I like using analogies with clients. I try to be nice and respectful about it, but in this case this doctor was wanting you to place a band-aid on a tumor rather than going in to operate. At least his clients can rely on health insurance to pay their ungodly high bill. Did you try...

Did you see the image John posted that led to all of this? If you did, explain to me what was funny about it. Perhaps I personally don't have a sense of humor because I didn't get that one, and I find all sorts of things funny. Perhaps John did post a few funny things, but then he wasn't...

Are you passing on the work and wanting a finders fee, or are you outsourcing? I'm confused as to what you mean by "farming out". I usually think of farming out as outsourcing. As I'm sure we all know, outsourcing work also comes with the sometimes not so glamorous responsibilities of being...

Which crybabies are we talking about? One could view those claiming to be victim to Fred's tyrannical rule:Big Laugh as the crybabies, and the people complaining about trolls as just folks standing up to bullies. No disrespect to your opinion or comment, but It's a matter of perspective I...

If I were you, I would try 1 first, and then 2. Two logos isn't normally a part of of the deal here, and if it's outside of the scope of your agreement, then charge them appropriately for it. The other question would then be: What do you do with the designs they don't pick? I know some...

And that's what it's about. No one appreciates their motives being called into question. Like I pointed out in my last post, a person choosing to be anonymous does not always mean they are doing so just to be free to troll other members here or elsewhere on the internet. So I agree with you...

No one has banned John.

You know, I was thinking about this whole thing this morning. It's extremely easy for someone like bob, or I should say someone playing "bob", or anyone else who's afraid to log in with their real name, who will hide behind a fake persona protected by anonymity, to say "words are just words"...

You might not be able to buy it, that could have easily been something someone just made. Just take some rectangles and a diamond or triangle shape and weld them together. Then make some contours.

I don't mind critiques at all. I don't like the drama when I post in the portfolio though. I personally wouldn't use your rebuttal. It's not my style. Comparing portfolios doesn't make me or the other person better as a designer. Based on John's last post I can see he's just wanting to...

I agree with what Rick has posted, and frankly I am relieved to see that I wasn't the only one who felt this way and it wasn't just a figment of my imagination... and that I really wasn't even getting the worst of it. That is why I'm chiming in, because the rest of you need to know what is...