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  1. Price check

    probably $3500-$4500. I'd have to see how much effort it is to remove the old sign and get the bases prepped for the new framework.
  2. Laying a sign and Laminating prints

    99% of the time, we laminate and then put it back in to print.
  3. Client Asked Me To Relocate Plastic Gemini Letters. ADVICE?

    gemini charges something like $4.50 a letter for the pattern (retail.) I'd probably charge at least that for just the pattern, plus a few bucks per letter to remove ($3 each, idk how hard its going to be to get them out) then add in your normal install rate. i'd also get new studs because the...
  4. Startup Business QUESTIONS?!

    if you can afford to open your own shop and possibly be without real income for the next year or two, i say go for it! i don't think many of us sign shop owners are living wild extravagant lives with all the dough we're raking in. If you want to make tons of money, working at a sign shop...
  5. VENT - Things that annoy you in the print industry.

    there are a lot of things that annoy me, but the only one that I cannot get over is the question "where is the guy that works here, you know, the owner?" Me, I'm the owner, or are you talking about my husband, my partner? the one who has absolutely nothing to do with sales, really won't help you...
  6. Need help with time / pricing on painted mural

    Pounced the tiger, free handed the stripes. For some reason I don't have a completed picture of the rest of the lettering, but that was pounced too. The client was happy, and my original time estimate was a bit high, but still longer than a few people suggested. This part of the project took...
  7. Exterior Building murals?

    I don't guarantee any printed graphic for more than a year or two, and I don't think any vinyl/ink/printer will, either. I mean, unprinted vinyl may have a longer lifespan, but once ink touches it, all bets are off. of course there are many instances where printed graphics still look good after...
  8. Explaining to a moron about a 2-sided directional sign

    if they are in your shop, just take a piece of paper and draw the arrows. Then they can see what youre talking about.
  9. Employee Situation

    i don't think you can prevent him from working a second job. sure, you can ask him to sign a non-compete, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hold up in court (its not like you have trade secrets in the sign industry, or maybe you do, idk.) so your options are fire him or let it go. OR pay him the...
  10. Looking for framing suggestions

    we would probably use 1" aluminum tubing to make an internal structure and then frame it with alum angle.
  11. 30 Pt Business Cards with Colour Edging

    If you like MADE IN CHINA go for it. I ordered from them once and they lied about where their product was made. My question "where are these being shipped from?" And their response was Arizona. Yeah, after they are made in china, they are shipped in bulk to arizona, where they then get...
  12. Need help with time / pricing on painted mural

    thanks, we actually have a bunch of nice brushes I got from a retired sign painter, but I'm hesitant to use them out in the field. Once I add in the cost of the text, I'm right about where you suggest we should be. I actually went down a little bit once Gino suggested it wasn't going to take...
  13. Need help with time / pricing on painted mural

    no, i think the mural wall will be power washed prior to us painting it. We will have to put the base down. But where the letters are there is a painted stripe that is not included in our scope of work. Also, i'm not worried about being competitive. they need to get this done in the next 3...
  14. Need help with time / pricing on painted mural

    The background is going to be repainted prior to us lettering it. I need to confirm what kind of paint is being used on the stripe.
  15. Need help with time / pricing on painted mural

    I am being asked to quote a 12ftx17ft mural on masonry. i only have a black and white image, but it looks likes its going to be about 5 or 6 colors. We will also have to paint upper case, block font letters, qty 22, 19" tall and qty 15 8" tall letters (actual area is 19" by about 70ft) that are...
  16. SIC codes and workman's comp insurance

    what category are you? the only thing I can find is "sign painting - inside" or "sign painting - outside"
  17. screen printed aluminum signs

    firesprint is a merchant member and they are awesome
  18. Signs 365 fail!

    Signs365 is always a last resort for us. Yes, they are cheap and fast. But their QC is nonexistent. I have other vendors who are often twice the price but have a great product. You should file a claim with your credit card company if they won't refund you.
  19. Hanging HDU Sign on Drywall

    we would probably use a french cleat. You can even rout a channel in the back of the HDU so that it sits flush against the wall.
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