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  1. Screw you 3M.

    :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
  2. Screw you 3M.

    Yikes...from the history s101 posts from both Prowraps and Colorado 3M if you see this which I know you are...As far as I am concerned if they stick to what they say you are loosing what I would consider two LARGE accounts that spend thousands of dollars on your product. Big loss because I...
  3. Screw you 3M.

    Now lets hope that if Avery and/or Oracal gets more business due to some of us switching that their pricing doesnt go up.
  4. Screw you 3M.

    ROFL I was thinking the same thing BUT it is great that you got so fed up and said something. I do not expect anything to change but definitely continuing buying the product and keeping our mouths shut would do us no good either.
  5. 3M Selling Wraps?

    on my screen it showed it was started yesterday at 5 05 AM...Must be seeing things sorry guys
  6. 3M Selling Wraps?

    Why does it seem like every "hot" thread is always followed by another thread of the same exact thing? I don't get it...
  7. Keeping a straight Line

    +1 for the vector doctor
  8. Screw you 3M.

    Ya its obvious they would be cheap cause like you said THEY MAKE THE PRODUCT which is the problem and why its a big deal to me. Even if I havent lost a job yet or they havent impacted me as a business it upsets me that we buy the product and they still think its reasonable to even compete...
  9. Screw you 3M.

    Who actually handles the product through original wraps? Customer comes to the dealership orders it which I am glad that car dealerships now are graphics salespeople. They get the order and turn it into Original Wraps / 3M? 3M prints the graphics and arranges installation with a "certified"...
  10. Screw you 3M.

    You loosing 30k and loosing out on making 30k is different. If you had an opportunity to build a relationship with a client and get their business over a course of time and it was 30k in the end and you come to find out you lost not to another shop but to the manufacture of vinyl you buy I am...
  11. Screw you 3M.

    I do not think Oracal OR Avery actually print and sale wraps and compete with your business..but maybe I am wrong? I think you are missing the point its not only screwing people and shops in lack of support and inconcistency but they do not mind taking potential clients but yet want you to buy...
  12. Screw you 3M.

    I knew the original wrap gig was going to be a bad bad deal and figured they would loose some business because of it. They can use every excuse they want, try to cover up all they want point blank is when it is all said and done they are competing with you and every other shop honestly.
  13. Dealing with hostile competition

    I am not a big shop but I could not agree more I think when shops charge less for "less overhead" it really hurts the bigger shops that have spent the time, financial responsibly and focus on quality.
  14. Dealing with hostile competition

    EDIT: Ill keep my mouth shut
  15. Dealing with hostile competition

    :goodpost:
  16. Dealing with hostile competition

    I would recommend don't have customers ask for their files from your previous employers design something better and more marketable and set your prices firm and sale to your clients why you are better than your previous employers if what you say is true shouldn't be an issue.
  17. What would you charge? (BUS WRAP)

    so automark is wrap film that is not for long term? I understand its cheaper but is it for temporary wrapping?
  18. What would you charge? (BUS WRAP)

    how was that material to work with out of curiosity?
  19. What would you charge? (BUS WRAP)

    Seems like that candidate group is keeping you busy just checked out your facebook. Nice stuff
  20. Avery Tattoo Vinyl

    Interesting
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