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Shoot, you just dated yourself. Nobody says that anymore either.

I understand why some people want designers to be doing designing, but a designer not designing is doing...? Nothing. Might as well get them doing anything. Second, like WWD said, a designer that knows production is a HUGE asset. You won't have to have an operator or a pre-press person fixing...

Wouldn't you be worried about the potential seam being visible?

I'm not sure I follow this logic. Time is a resource. If you have employees with extra time and you hire someone to do ANOTHER job, you're wasting resources. What's even worse for the economy is when a shop closes down and fires seven people because they hired two people they didn't need and...

There are plenty of ways to do the whole thing, but not just a section. If somebody knows a way, I'd be interested.

We don't operate in a free market though. Our version of capitalism is heavily regulated. China is closer to a free market than we are.

That's something for us to deal with. Not customers. If you pay 10% more for your ACM, pass it along. If your supplier is trying to charge you 50% more for ACM "because of tariffs" you need to talk to them.

That's not conducting business, Gino. That's giving them information. We don't do really do one off stuff here. If a customer wants to buy a dozen ADA signs, I can tell them what they should expect to pay. We're not going to chase after a couple hundred bucks here and there. We do complete sign...

This just made me feel super old.

Like Gino said, it depends on how much production you do. Nobody can give you the answer you're looking for except YOU (or your accountant if you have one). There's a tipping point where it makes more sense to do everything in house versus outsourcing and you just have to figure out where that...

I'm still fairly young, but I haven't heard the phrase used to refer to sex since the late 90s or early 2000s. I don't think anybody younger than 40 says that. Just like nobody says "knockin' boots" unless they're a certain age.

I always like when they come back with the "not that much aluminum" on an ACM panel argument.

Capitalism, baby. Isn't that what we're all about? Free markets and what not? It's all fun and games until "somebody" gets their feelings hurt. I've never been a merchant member, never made any money off of this site, and don't intend to. If anybody has questions about something we specialize...

I understood, but it's also technically against the rules to shill for another company.

That's what I get for being lazy and not checking on my own joke.

This post is winning.

Is 3M a merchant member? I see people recommending their products all the time. Might be time to crack down.

Don't worry, I got it and I thought it was funny.

I think the joke was that it's just called a water heater. Not a hot water heater. It's like saying ATM machine.

The laminate failure is likely due to UV exposure. The problem is that both the vinyl and laminate are only rated to 220ish degrees, so you're not likely not get any kind of support from 3M. My guess is that the increased temperature didn't cause the laminate to fail quickly or spectacularly...