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The Mueller Report

Gene@mpls

New Member
When I first experienced reality TV, I predicted it would be the end of civilized life as we know it. And I hadn't even seen DJT.
 

Fred Weiss

Merchant Member
Long story short, you need to decide if you're cool with the following.

1. Having a President that obstructs justice.

2. Having a President that is good with Russia involving itself in our election process as long as it benefits him.

3. Having a President that lies constantly and directs his staff to lie, regardless of the situation.

4. Having a President that surrounds himself with criminal activity. Three of Trump's closest allies are going to jail (Stone, Cohen, and Manafort).

5. Are you willing to see Mike Pence become president?
 

TimToad

Active Member
5. Are you willing to see Mike Pence become president?

If it means that our confidence in due process and faith in our system of checks and balances is even somewhat restored, yes.

For all of the egregiously bad regulatory policy that has been enacted by executive order, Orwellian cabinet head choices and financial self-dealing, Pence couldn't be much worse. He would be constrained by House and likely has enough excrement on his shoes to limit him to being a very lame duck.
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
Speaking of lame ducks, in a more precise way.......... do you really think all of your points have come into existence since before this report even got started ?? If all this took place before he got elected, then nothing he's done so far is illegal or wrong. In fact, that would mean all of this crap took place during the obama reign.

Happy Easter and for you hoppy Easter. Oh, that's right, you don't believe in Easter, so therefore you don't observe the holiday, huh ?? Must suck, being you. No eggs or candy for the bad kids. Hope you didn't make any Easter signs, that would go against your non-capitalistic ways.
 

rossmosh

New Member
He did break the law while in office, or at least there is a very good argument to make that he did. Mueller cites 11 circumstances where he obstructed justice or at least could have potentially been charged with obstruction of justice. Remember, Mueller is not a judge. He's going to talk like a prosecutor and state his findings and how strong they are. In this circumstance, he makes it pretty clear he found a lot in this regard.

It seems people are missing the fact that Mueller was acting under the umbrella of the DOJ and the DOJ's current opinion is that they can't/won't charge a sitting President. This is not the stance under every DOJ. It's this current DOJ's interpretation of the law.

It really is a shame people keep stating things that are not accurate about the report and its findings.
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
Since I'm not clear on what you are talking about, would you mind reciting these 11 counts ??
 

equippaint

Active Member
This is going against my best judgement here. The 11 circumstances of potential obstruction were pretty clear and I honestly didn't think were even a point of debate from the Trump camp. Now, the scuttlebutt is ANOTHER investigation into the investigators, this right after all of the whining about the cost of the 1st one. I mean for Christ sake, for the past 2 years, the cry to let it go has been very loud so at this point do what you have been preaching already...… let it go!...….unless of course you're worried about something and need to try and sway public opinion a bit more?
I say this in a very neutral way, I have never seen an innocent person act anywhere near like this. This is usually the way some crackhead acts after committing some sort of crime. Denial, anger, excuses. accusations of mistreatment and then more denial. It's time to start acting innocent if that's what you want people to think.
 

TimToad

Active Member
This is going against my best judgement here. The 11 circumstances of potential obstruction were pretty clear and I honestly didn't think were even a point of debate from the Trump camp. Now, the scuttlebutt is ANOTHER investigation into the investigators, this right after all of the whining about the cost of the 1st one. I mean for Christ sake, for the past 2 years, the cry to let it go has been very loud so at this point do what you have been preaching already...… let it go!...….unless of course you're worried about something and need to try and sway public opinion a bit more?
I say this in a very neutral way, I have never seen an innocent person act anywhere near like this. This is usually the way some crackhead acts after committing some sort of crime. Denial, anger, excuses. accusations of mistreatment and then more denial. It's time to start acting innocent if that's what you want people to think.

I couldn't agree more than what you've posted. The diversions and shiny object distractions along with the chronic persecution complex are all pointing to big trouble.

Nobody screaming Benghazi every day cared a wit about the millions and millions spent on what ended up being a real witchhunt. So much so that it cost several of its key players their seats in Congress. this utter and complete hypocrisy just has to end for the sake of the country and our well served system of checks and balances.

A judge has just ruled that Mnuchin has to cough up his tax returns, under audit or not or face Contempt Of Congress charges which carry a five year prison term.

Within a few weeks to a couple of months, the various House committees will get likely get the unredacted version of the report and things will get even worse for the most innocent man on earth.
 

equippaint

Active Member

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GAC05

Quit buggin' me
"Houston, we are clear for Thread-Lock - Counting down in Ten... Nine.... Eight ......."



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Johnny Best

Active Member
Some of you on here post articles from newspapers and TV networks that are anti Trump. Take New York Times, a newspaper I read everyday online, not for its politics but for the arts section, sports and obituaries. But New York has a mayor who is just a big lug who is not a great leader who they really need at this time. And the Bronx elects a so called Socialist who has never had an idea of her own has a huge following because she is another anti Trumper. I scan through the heavy type articles on those newspapers because it pretty much is the same garbage day in and day out just by different people.
But to establish your political ideologies on these articles is absurd to me. You can listen to TV and read articles but you have to determine which fruit to pick and consume. Not all of it is good and some fruit rotten. I accept who gets elected to be president, My anger or pleasure is not going to make much difference to the POTUS or some pencil neck in congress.
 
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