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I feel better for having read it, too. You can never stop learning, no matter your stage in this craft (well it used to be a craft) I see so many people who never even think about kerning, who use two scripts in the same layout etc. Not just newbs. I see cluttered, busy layouts. Clashing...

Really neat idea. I wonder if they had to use all latex paints? Love....Jill

In this veritable block of text, I really had to strain to find out which supplier you are praising. Paragraphs are your friend. I am a Glantz gal all the way. Love....Jill

My proposals say 45 days. Love....Jill

That's that one font that that one fire truck apparatus company uses exclusively. (can't remember their name) It's hard to match but you could maybe try an Atkinson font from The Fontry http://www.myfonts.com/search/the+fontry/fonts/ Love....Jill

I usually throw in the hours if they buy a big sign. If I am being paid specifically for the hours on the door, I typically go with Stevens Percepta or Chesham Sans. Helvetica Black is too bulky. Love....Jill

First off....rick, that sign is uglier than a hatfull of @ssholes. As to the OP: I also adhere to the codes, even if nobody else does. You could take pix of the other places who have the exterior window lettering as examples and apply for a variance. In my township, one is not permitted...

Your designer's ones are not much better, very dated looking. You need to design for the audience you wish to attract. If you want to attract the biker and redneck crowd, with a few "city slickers" keep on using those. I think of Mad magazine when I see your name, or someone insane, or...

You could always sub it out to someone on here who is good at designing. What you have looks really ho-hum and kind of unprofessional due to the lack of welding in the connected serifs. Design your name first, then add your sub copy. You may or may not need an oval, as it overpowers...

I could paint that in about a half hour for a cost of about $5 to myself. See if you can sub it out to someone who paints or airbrushes. Love....Jill

I would send a letter as well as an email giving them 10 days to make up their minds. (I have a sign sitting here since 2007) Love....Jill

They also deliver (no minimum) for a very small fee. Pioneer also delivers but has a minimum order of (I think) $35 and they charge (I think) $1 more for delivery than Glantz.

The bungee cord idea is brilliant! :thankyou: Love....Jill

Call N Glantz in Monroeville 1 800 642 4240. If they don't have a blank in the size you need they will cut it for a nominal fee. There's also Pioneer in Pittsburgh. I've been dealing with both of these since the 1980s. Love....Jill Laird sells to the general public.

I'd make something that you could actually read, in a nice font, with a good layout, and probably charge a lot more than you would. I usually don't quote prices in the main forum. Love....Jill PS If you already did it...what did you charge? Do you routinely do a job without quoting a price...

I actually make it a habit of reporting stuff like that just for fun. It's not like I'm rolling in business. :Big Laugh Love....Jill

:Big Laugh Outsource it. That is, if you know how to prepare a file. Or learn to use our friend, Mark Registration. I would also add an additional border of white, as I try to avoid using black on glass as it doesn't have a lot of contrast.

That's what I was thinking. Addie's twin sister.

It's about what I would expect. Bad outline, unwelded script in a hideous font, poor spacing. Go for it.

Gloria it is! Glory glory Halleluia! :thankyou::thankyou::thankyou: An hour on a BU#. :covereyes: