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then you know where that quote came from.

how short is your run? you could get them screen printed. depends on what you mean by durable. will these get beat up pretty badly? do you mean fade proof? scratch proof?

that quote is from a dear sign friend who passed away. he was telling us to enjoy life as his slipped away. got a stupid ass drawing about that one???

so you wanted to get a thread going where we'd have a serious "sign" talk then you post a ton of strange and stupid photos. doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose?

45 to 60 days isn't as bad as the 120 days people. they also seem to be the ones that require that you submit your survey with all photos to a portal or you wont' get paid

refuse the job as it wasn't set up for the building's needs. should have been done on rails painted to match the building which Gemini will do. also the studs should have been done in line so they can be mounted to the rails. why deal with other people's messes?

yes we get our price for a survey when it is done with a customer and yes there are a ton of people who will run out and do it for free as they think it is part of doing business. it would be interesting to hear from those people as to why they don't feel like that is a service they can charge for.

by other shops setting the price are you talking about doing a survey for a national sign company? if so, yep they do set their own costs. we've gotten some where they will pay $35.00 to drive to Brattleboro which is at the other end of the state and $35 wouldn't even cover our hourly rate...

well nothing was done, nothing completed. they received nothing. the fact that they paid in advance only means they they expected to have something done for that money but their own guys messed up. will you letter their truck once they do come in for the money you all ready have been paid to...

no, it would say vinyl $$, install $$$, Tax $$$ and if it was designed, $$$$.

nope, can't say I've ever run into anything like that. we don't bulk everything together and we do pre-cut what was agreed on. with that siad, any changes are an up charge. since you didn't do anything, why would you feel , like it was OK to keep the money?

did you have all the vinyl pre-cut? if so, charge for that and return the install labor

have to ask, do you have any sources for your sign materials? noticed a vendor request for a stop sign which is pretty strange. this site also has merchant memebers that do electrical sign, try one of them

my worst on was on a sign for a weight limit on a bridge and I spelled strictly "strickly". the local paper took a photo of it and it was on the front page of the local news, ugh. in my defense, I made the sign on a 4B no spell check back then ;)

our panel saw has the option to remove the saw and replace it with a metal plate with a blade in it. does yours have that option? it works great

I use Business Card Express out of New Hampshire and have for years. always been happy

of course it is real art. paint brush in hand or on screen, it still takes an artist to create art, plain and simple. if computer programs were all you needed to put out art, we wouldn't see so many horrid signs

Joe's sign is pretty good except for the woman as she is more tart/sleeze than steampunk.

sounds like this is more than hobby person should be doing. you are in CA, don't elctrical signs there need to be UL?

they usually claim they added some to it for the splice but it is a total pain on a long run