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Here are the first two things I thought of. The bottom may be too much like a sign for an optometrist. :design: But with visual I am thinking of an eye in there somewhere. Neither of these is very upscale, however.

OK thanks (I think) for loading a pic. :) The name has a lot of potential, far better than the old Extreme thing. But I was always told not to arch a casual letterstle, and also not to use two casuals in the same layout. If you want to be cutting a lot of boyracer stuff, use the skull thing...

So let's see your ideas and go from there. Love....Jill

I like the direction it went. Like I said on another topic this week, I am tired of the old "big letter on each end" layout. I like either background color, client will probably go with the first one. Think APPLETOWN should be a tiny bit smaller like Bob & MTM depict it. And it needs...

Lovely work. I had to deliver a sign up to an old historic tavern in January. They had one of those against one wall, it had to be at least 10' long. Wonder how the heck they made that? Probably with homemade imporvised tools too. You certainly are a multi-faceted Pancake King! Love....Jill

Yours looks like something for a chopper company. The two elements are kind of floating, and it looks as if you've squeezed that bottom font (Wide Latin?) to fit. The diamond plate and other stuff might look "cool" but it has nothing to do with what that company is offering. If you want a...

So familiar. I have also done the arrow thing too, Signgal. Have also had the dimensions written on everything in triplicate (using a pre-fabbed sign blank this customer saw on another job I did and requested the same thing) "But it's so smallll!!!!" After I make a gilded faux finished sign...

Ooh both of those are getting me thinking. He is the "old hippie" type.

My daughter and I were recently given some really nice gifts from a local potter. Is that the term? He does not have a business, he is a teacher and making clay items on the wheel has been his hobby for over 40 years. He makes three-handled drinking mugs, moustache cups, piggy banks, and these...

Agreed. I was not too keen on your first suggestion, Rick, but this one is excellent. Love the typography. (I still don't know if I would be brave enough to try the taco)

Now make the took marks in the FOODSMITHS the lightest color in the blacksmith graphic. I like it a lot better now. I like the green, and I'd make the posts green too.

He paid $50 to you for the file or $50 to the embroidery company? Suggestions are to charge for a logo design when you get a customer like that. That way who cares who makes it, as long as you got paid originally. We've all made that mistake, I'm sure. But I am also sure that you could learn...

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. :)

Meh, I say that all the time on here. I think almost everything Pat Whatley or Rick says is more quote worthy. Love....Jill

That was just an accident, but you raise a really good point. Maybe the clock should be set at about 4PM. (I have always had a terrible problem with telling time on a "real" clock)

Here's a really quick and dirty mock up of my suggestion.

@ Gregg I could make this sign myself using a saw, sign-ready MDO, paint, (I love to do fades with paint) some scrap SignFoam, a dremel tool, primer, flat black paint and a lot of sandpaper. It's really very simple. I would never design something I could not make. Glad you liked the...

OK, nixed the medieval look. What? You don't like eels? :wink:

While I do like the tooled look of the font iSign chose, I do not like a layout with big capitals on both ends. I used to think this was such a cool look, but now it just seems dated. Also the chosen font looks stretched and I don't like that either. Here is something using a font called...

Well, even though you are done with this post here is my opinion. While I like the little clock picture, the font is really awful. I would put the clock guy to the left and make the name on the right in a nice legible font. Even something like Impact would look good. Make it as if the clock...