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Jiarby makes some great points. I also question why a "car dealership" is getting wholesale pricing. Sounds like an end user to me. We offer wholesale pricing to legitimate wholesale customers, who will markup and resell the products. If an end user comes to us with print ready artwork...

LMAO Pat. It'd be a great sight to see them with that thing spread out on the lot trying to letter it.

I'd be very, very concerned if I were bouncing checks and not paying vendors.

Google it!

I love how everyone reads/hears what they want. I also love how there are a few cheerleaders here who have very little else to offer..

Wow.

You're exactly right Gary. I mentioned this in the other thread concerning certification: http://www.signs101.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56402&page=2

I wouldn't use 380 for this.. 180 will work fine/better. 380 is very conformable, almost too conformable. Dale, we are talking about wrapping a van roof here. That is a complex curve, with a beginning installer. That is a recipe for disaster if you throw a BS into the mix. For the...

Read the technical bulletins Dale. I've talked to many tech support people at nearly all of the vinyl manufacturers, and they find that insufficient squeegee pressure is a leading reason for installation failure. I wish I woulda thought about it, I would have asked you to demonstrate...

<sigh> There's so many "ifs" going on here, I'm not even going to try to address them. I don't know where the idea that only certified people would be able to buy materials--that's ludacris, and will *never* happen. You think 3M is certifying people because they want to lessen their...

Very nice.

Yes and Yes. The UASG and PDAA certification tests are just that--tests. Either association will have no problem sending you home without a certificate if you can't perform to the level they expect. There will always be ignorant people out there who do not know what the programs are all...

Yep, use contours instead of outlines. This will give you cuttable artwork, unlike what you'd get from using outlines.

Piece of cake.. Like Circleville said, try to remove the racks if you can. If not, you'll have to work around/under them. Don't expose more of the vinyl than you have to, and work in sections. And DO NOT use a Big Squeegee! While the BS works fine for applying transfer tape, you will...

Curtis, you're missing the point entirely. Installers don't go take a certification test and "come home with some real technical skills..." They have to have the skills FIRST and then demonstrate these skills to pass the test and attain certification. Keep in mind I'm referring only to the...

Gino: I'm curious as to whether or not the two installers you refer to above were actually certified or not. I see constantly people use "certified" synonamously with attending a training class. I've met quite a few people who were "Oracal Certified". Oracal doesn't actually offer their own...

Welcome Sergio! We should sit down and have lunch! Thank you for coming forward and trying to clear the air a little. There are a million ideas and rumors floating around out there (especially given what's happened in the past couple of weeks). I've been very vocal about my feelings in...

Great idea.. err.. wait, they already have that. It's called the PDAA. It's been said in this thread already. I've said it 100 times in various other posts. This topic will never officially go to bed because there is so much more to it than most see. UASG has 106 member companies PDAA...

I haven't used the Oracal since it was series 870, but if I'm not mistaken, it's not laminated. It's just 4mil vinyl with air egress. Heh.. when Googling "Oracal 970" this post comes up number three.