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  1. This Is Why!

    So after reading all the reasons 3M and Avery are NOT being used by some of you guys, and hearing all the rage about Orajet's 3751 RA, I decided, I'd give them another shot, against my better judgement from having experienced this in the past. I ordered a 150' wrap kit of it. I let it cure for...
  2. Don't lose his phone number.

    Made it easy on ourselves and our customers. We sell them in multiples of 10 for $8 each. ANY amount below 10 is $25 each. I simply tell them they are made on a 4'x8' sheet then cut down and that it's not cost effective to make them one at a time. We don't even offer die-cut coro or banners. I...
  3. same job, different brokers

    Happens to me. As long as the job is still up in the air, you are under no ethical constraints to deny potential customers that find you through their own volition. I would definately give them the same retail price you normally would and if it's a better deal for them, SCORE!
  4. Wall murale

    I'd do wall wraps all day everyday with Phototex if I could. Easy money. Great Material.
  5. interesting "how to get paid" topic

    Gotta be careful with that one. If the sign is attached to the building, it becomes part of the building and belongs to the owner...not the renter. The building owner could take you to court for repoing his property that he gave his renter permission to have installed. If the building owner...
  6. Talk about Avery Film

    WHAT? No MacTac users in here? How does MacTac stay in business if they aren't even mentioned in a forum like this?
  7. 3M IJ180V3 material problems

    I have that issue with the first couple feet too. Maybe not 10 ft though. Had same problem with first few feet of Avery though.
  8. Partial wrap first time

    +1
  9. Non-Compete Question

    Are they competing with you now? I'm sure they would hold some legal weight since it IS their signatures nonetheless. I also think there is a time frame limit on how long they have to keep from being your competitor. It's a gray area concept anyway. If they are installers only and not...
  10. Why is Clear application tape so hated?

    Because is SMELLS NASTY!!!
  11. Average Square foot pricing for vehicle wraps

    Gino, Incorrect. I never said the reason to know competitors pricing was for the purpose of underbidding them. However I said knowing allows you to outbid in the scenario discussed above, when it makes sense. My point of learning what your competition was charging for "similar products" was to...
  12. local sign shops want me to wrap vehicles

    I would say if you have an account with that big of a company where all you do it install and it makes up a large portion of your income...you are in a unique position. Where I am, there are only a handful of shops that actually have their own installer. I literally have 3 shops within 5 miles...
  13. local sign shops want me to wrap vehicles

    lol, I like the art of war analogy. But honestly, the art of business is a little different. Think about it. If you do install work for 3 shops in your town, they have the same quality install as you. (because you did them) IF you didn't enable them, by installing for them, that is one less...
  14. Average Square foot pricing for vehicle wraps

    Looks like you pretty much agree with me and just misunderstood what I said. I never said to base pricing or business model on your competition. Re-read the first 2 points below. • Know your overhead and what you "NEED" to charge • Know the value (quality) of your product • Compare your prices...
  15. Average Square foot pricing for vehicle wraps

    Knowing your costs and what you want to profit each job are 2 of the 3 things I said to do. Knowing what they are charging is the part the lets you have insight into your market get extra money if it's there to get. I didn't say to gouge, but if your market is paying 2k over what you...
  16. local sign shops want me to wrap vehicles

    I wouldn't mind doing installs for shops in other states...they aren't as much competitors. HEY...did you know there's been a craigslist ad for installers needed for a wrap shop in HAWAI'I I'm just saying... That would be sweet!
  17. local sign shops want me to wrap vehicles

    Not exactly. If I'm losing whole wrap jobs (includes printing) that would net me $2,400, to a competitor because their wraps I got paid $700 to wrap gave them more notoriety around town and made it to their gallery. So in the long run, it's more money for them...not more money for me. I don't...
  18. local sign shops want me to wrap vehicles

    Awesome design is great...but if it's a real shoddy install...that's gonna leave a bad impression. If it's a great design AND install...it's gonna leave a great impression...hurting my business in the long run.
  19. Renaming Business - Soliciting opinions on direction.

    Nothing with the word X-treme or any derivative thereof please. lol
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