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Is it bad if I am noticing that the film work and scenery is just as amazing?

absolutely! I'll drink to that! :toasting:

I feel ya. I guess the way I look at it is like this, I don't "leave it up to the customer to tell me it's right" I leave it up to them to pay me to do the job. I naturally assume that every first time customer that walks in the door or calls, is hiring me for my set of skills and expertise...

I love a good design contest, but is Fred wanting to change the logo? It's kind of iconic at this point. If not, how about just designing a signs 101 related layout for a t-shirt, it wouldn't have to replace the existing logo and it could be something different then the one at the top of this...

There was once a golden turd trophy.... but I wouldn't say signs101 is a turd that needs polishing, so that trophy wouldn't make sense as a prize for this competition. :Big Laugh

I think he has it wrong again, but the third time should be a charm. LOL

We have our designs separated into several price ranges. ie: minimum, medium, high end. Minimum is 1 unique concept and 2 revisions. Every revision after that is X amount. Medium is 1-2 unique concepts and 4 revisions. Every revision after that is X amount. High end is 1-5 unique concepts and 4...

I personally wouldn't try to fit the copy inside the curtains. Maybe something similar to this:

Being cute with images in the place of letters rarely works, and in the extremely rare chance that it does, It will only work because you can still clearly read the name of the business. In both of these cases it takes quite a while to read what it actually says. The redesign actually takes...

Nice :Big Laugh I can see where you are coming from. The idea of using uncle sam in that way was my attempt at keeping it light and not so overbearing. The truth is the owners' son, who was a friend of mine in high school is in the military. My guess is that is why it is named and themed...

On a somewhat related note, You know I think it's funny, how some people might give you a hard time about not having a full understanding of their process, but I know when customers come to me, I have a harder time working with the know-it-all's who try to tell me how to do my job, so I like to...

Yup that's me... I'm just a big Amu$$ :wink:, but you know what? We did find a printer who felt the same way. So in this case I assumed (I mean "amused") right.:thumb: Again thanks for everyones' help. I feel much more informed now... although I'm confident I will never be an expert on this...

They said they wanted it patriotic.... LOL

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Depends on how you run your business I guess. If they hire us to design artwork then yes, the goal is pass on the ownership of the artwork. If they hire us to make a sign, then they aren't necessarily buying artwork. But at our shop we see signs/graphics and design work as being two different...

I sketch on paper... Trace and clean that up on a transparent film using sharpies... Scan it in... In the rare case that I use Corel Trace I first adjust the contrast of the bitmap accordingly to get a cleaner edge, then like weaselboogie said, I clean up the nodes. But most of the time I...

What jhill said. You must have multiple pages.

here is one I'm working on:

The bottom line is I'm getting paid to do this. And I love designing, so I really can't complain. However at a certain point I realize the customer hasn't hired me for my expertise and imagination, but instead has hired me to try to crawl inside their head and regurgitate their ideas for...